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Right... so everyone is biased against Israel? But you simply cannot be taken seriously when you claim that openly pro-Israel establishments like the NYT and BBC are biased against Israel - it's just utterly ludicrous, and demons
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> why are you so obsessed with the State of Israel? Because my government has suffered from Israeli interference, and because my government is supporting the apartheid state of Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people - providing
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> young people who otherwise do not hold a negative opinion towards Israel suddenly became anti-Israel You're not seriously blaming TikTok for anti-Israel sentiment?! Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the genocide be
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This is a valid point, and reminds me of those appalling scenes when Netanyahu received a standing ovation from the sycophantic US Congress, in the middle of his genocide of the Palestinian people [0]. And that scene in turn reminds me of o
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Here's a source that confirms: https://newrepublic.com/post/181327/mitt-romney-congress-ban...
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That's only part of the truth though. AIPAC is funded by Israel, and by it's own description AIPAC is an organisation made up of pro-Israel zionists. Oh, and the "I" in AIPAC stands for "Israel".
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I think many people are aware that Israel is the real reason behind the ban - the don't want the world to see how truly grotesque the apartheid state of Israel really is. I mean, some of what's happened is so utterly vile I'm
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And there is always a Hasbara drone who lies, deflects, and conflates Israel with Jewry so they can insinuate that any criticism of Israel == antisemitism.
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I'm not supporting Hamas or what they did on October 7th. I'm against genocide and the utterly, utterly horrifying actions of the IDF, and against Israeli propaganda that has been used to manufacture consent for a modern day hol
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That's the first time I've seen this story. As harrowing as it is, it describes the sexual abuse of one woman, not rape.
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Those deaths are tragic, and yes, one baby was killed which is particularly awful. For many of those dead, we will however simply never know if they were slain by Hamas or the IDF[0] (as so many were), as Israel would not allow an investiga
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> do you really think that overnight they changed No, as you said yourself it happened over a long period. And the reason? They probably realised they were getting played by Israel, who wanted them to be violent to "justify"
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> i don't have reasonable grounds to conclude that israel didn't have evidence to conclude the hospital had lost its protected status due to being used in hostilities. Thus i can't conclude that israel violated the laws of
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It wasn't changed "recently", it was 2017! Hamas, unlike many Israelis, are not supremacists; they lived peacefully alongside Christians in Gaza for example, and explicitly state they have no beef with Judaism. > They stil
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This "news article" doesn't support your claims - it only says the IGF claims these hostages were killed a short while before they reached them. Given the IGF has murdered Israeli hostages up close, has taken the approach of
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I mean, that's my point? Innocense should be presumed, but Israel says "that hospital is a terrorist hotbed of evil!", the western media parrots it verbatim, and then the IDF blows up a hospital - all without credible evide
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If you want to play semantics, going by deeds the IDF, and even the Israeli state, is a far more heinous terorist organisation than Hamas. The Oct 7th attack was terrible, but the Israeli response (both the initial response when many Israel
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This is the old charter from 1988. The new charter, published in 2017, is very different. But of course, you already know this.
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Right, because in the absence of credible evidence, just saying a thing makes it true... at least for Israeli Hasbara...
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True... but where were the terrorists? Where was the evidence? Apart from the ludicrous 3D animation that was created before Israel destroyed the first hospital, I haven't seen so much as a shred of credible evidence. Oh, apart from th
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Yep, and even then, the IDF likely killed many of those killed on Oct 7th. We'll never know exactly how many, since Israel wouldn't allow an investigation.
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I'm not at all surprised, they have form. Even now, they are still breaking the ceasefire in Lebanon too (they broke it within hours, of course) - and why wouldn't they, when the Israeli-controlled Lebanese army just lets them con
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> So can we also say Hamas is genocidal? No, because intent matters, and Hamas do not have genocidal intent - all they want is freedom from Israeli occupation and dehumanisation, and their stolen land back.
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Hamas is not an "Islamist" organisation (I hate that word BTW, as it's an Israeli invention to demonise Muslims). The article you linked to is pure propaganda - Hamas' charter changed a long, long time ago. OTOH, Israe
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Isolated incidents?! We've seen daily war crimes just on social media for the past year! The Hind Rajab foundation alone* has found clear evidence of war crimes committed by over one thousand individuals - that's just the ones t
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> The fact that there are evil people on both sides I only see evil from one side - Israel. The absolute depths of horror they have unleashed on the Palestinian people is unfathomable. > with the precedent of warring states and Middle
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> hundreds of peaceful civilians being tortured, taped and murdered There is no absolute evidence that any of Hamas' hostages have been raped or tortured - according to released hostages, they were treated very well! AFAIK the only
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Civilian deaths are a violation if they are intentional - and Israel has repeatedly, deliberately targeted civilians, including children. There is an abundance of evidence, and yes you are right that they should be condemned - except Is
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This is pure Hasbara-style hyperbole - Hamas is not "objectively" evil, and there is zero evidence that Hamas have raped or tortured anyone for months. But if that's the standard you're using, then it's a documented
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Hamas is not an Islamic fundamentalist organisation. They are Muslims, but they have not twisted the religion for extremism; they are not ISIS or Al-Qaeda.
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