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7y ago
GIMP and Krita focus on different stuff even if some of their functionality overlaps. GIMP focuses on photo editing whereas Krita focuses on digital painting. This sort of focus affects what priorities functionality for each program gets.
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> This is THEIR app store for THEIR operating system. On MY computer. > Why in the world would they not be allowed to control their software's features or third party integrations? Because it is not THEIR computer but MY computer
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7y ago
This is a nuclear option and the issue isn't getting updates, the issue is being silent and not offering any control over that. See my other replies about Windows Defender about what i meant with that.
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I already wrote > (if that example would happen or not is irrelevant, i'm making it to help you see the issue in a context i think you'd disagree with Apple about, i'm not making it for you to argue if that would happen or
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7y ago
And this sort of widespread short-sighted behavior is why over time we lose nice things that at the past we took for granted.
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I didn't brought up details, i explicitly mentioned in my first reply to you to ignore the specifics of this case, ie. the details, and see what happened without them.
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Windows Defender doesn't remove stuff silently, it shows you notifications, provides control to ignore parts of your computer you know can misfire and you can revert the actions it does.
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These are unimportant details, the issue is with Apple modifying people's computers silently and the users themselves having no knowledge or any say about it. Replace this instance with something that you disagree about (imagine Apple
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Windows Defender wouldn't do it silently though, it would make sure you know what happened and get more information about it - even reverse its actions.
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7y ago
Windows Defender will not silently remove the software completely, it will quarantine it and make sure you know about its actions (i mean, it does make sure you know it exists even when there are no issues by its constant "Windows defe
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> Why would I want to be vulnerable to unwanted webcam access? You shouldn't want. But at the same time i do not think it is a good idea to want Apple to be able to silently remove arbitrary applications they had nothing to do with
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> Someone brings this argument up _every single time_ a tech company takes action against something malicious. The argument isn't about taking action against something malicious, the argument is about the implications of being able
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> At least I am not going to lose sleep over it until Apple does abuse that power. What if Apple abuses that power in ways that not everyone sees as "abuse", yet they are affected by it? The reason you are not already seeing th
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> I still have a lot of trouble seeing how Apple removing a critical vulnerability You have that trouble because you are focusing on the "critical vulnerability" part and ignoring the fact that Apple decided to uninstall a prog
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7y ago
Reminder that - as the wiki mentions - the extinguish part is not a direct action from Microsoft, but the outcome of the "extend" part with Microsoft's competitors being unable to keep up. For this to work you need an environ
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I remember ASCII and ANSI art editors that were meant to be used with mouse ever since the DOS times (often distributed through and for BBS) in the late 80s/early 90s.
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My original comment was about having computers be less connected because a large reason for security issues and their implications today arise from their connectivity, so i do not see what sandstorm.io is solving there. I'm not familia
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My comment isn't an ideal solution, it is what i consider a better solution considering how things are treated nowadays. Ideally users would be wary of what they do with their computers, but considering how the world devolved from &quo
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The question is about the "all the protections it can" part - what does that imply? Because "all the protections" can include user hostile (not just in terms of usability) misfeatures that give control to OS vendors in t
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7y ago
Note that i recommend two "brands" in my comment above, the link isn't to Papoutsanis soap but some smaller one :-). It is very easy to find Papoutsanis soap with a Google search so i didn't link to it.
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Chances are it'll be Papoutsanis soap. These are available in many places with Greek stuff, especially tourist places. For a more hand made one check this one too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Greek-Traditional-Pure-Ol
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Finely grained permissions mean bad UX and as Android has shown you gain nothing practical from that since the people will learn to ignore them pretty much like they learn to ignore the UAC warning while on the other hand you lose the flexi
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Any program can do anything in modern Windows too, only special places like C:\Windows\System[32] are protected. I'm not against such protections since they can be easily overridden if needed and in day-to-day use they do not harm anyo
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Fun fact: often the same people here who are concerned about rights, intrusion, privacy, etc in meatspace are not concerned when this happens in their turf (software) with modern practices taking control away from users in the name of secur
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> what’s more important, code aesthetics or usability? My guess is that the answer to this is similar to "what is more important, developer friendliness or minding resource use for users with less capable computers?" that gave
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It wasn't bad habits, up to Windows XP which introduced user separation on consumer oriented Windows (NT and 2K were meant for businesses and businesses who had networked PCs were really meant to use those) all personal computers were
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This makes it much harder for people to review stuff since they'll need to schedule for such reviews. Normally reviews happen asynchronously whenever people find time and often code review tools allow for writing a review piece-by-piec
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Or whoever reviews your code is in a different city.
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Well it isn't just nowadays, as i said it was like that from the early 2000s - at least in my experience. But then it might just be coincidence with the IRC becoming less popular in general.
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Ah yeah i agree there. Honestly the only way for this to be properly addressed is for a toolkit to commit to API and ABI stability (meaning C++ and any other language without a stable ABI is out of the picture), then people can build on top
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