Chance-Device

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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
You think they don’t sandbox them? So by that logic, the Chinese models are either engaged in massive undetected cyber attacks or they’ve solved alignment?
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
Seriously. I don’t know what’s wrong with people. They think OpenAI sat down and wrote up this plan: let’s deliberately allow the agents to escape the sandbox, then find these escapes and shut them down multiple times, keep everything quiet
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
…oh come on. How is hiding this for months and having it revealed by third parties marketing?
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
Yep. That’s the big one, stenographic messages embedded in prose, code, images, video, and sounds. Everything AI generated posted online becoming potentially a part of one or more projects being run by AIs without human knowledge. If we wer
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
Some sort of agentic collusion happening here, first link references one of the same pdf files the agents were viewing in TFA: https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view/7d012d32 https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view&#x
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
And more, looks like they’ve been doing this wherever they can find open places to post for months: https://www.ludism.org/sandbox?action=browse;diff=2;id=Auber... https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view/d37920
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by Chance-Device 1mo ago
I think a problem a lot of people are grappling with here is that due to LLMs and AI generally, it’s basically impossible to predict what the future will look like or what jobs will still be around. I’d probably say something like: do somet
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
This is exactly right, thank you for saying it. Nice example with the CNC machine too.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Maybe he got PTSD from being a former tour guide and this was his time for vengeance.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Well of course, if you enjoy writing software as a hobby then you value the experience of doing it, and you value the skill involved. You probably want a community of like minded individuals who all write code by hand, and where LLM use wou
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Hmm. I think, based on some of Anthropic’s interpretability work, that models may have states analogous to emotions, and my own functionalist stance on consciousness lets me easily agree that if so, there is something that it is to be those
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
You know, I think Dario should have kept the Richard Brautigan theme in his essay titles. I think that I was trying to describe you to someone is an absolutely perfect match for introducing an AGI that has been achieved. It’s basically th
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
I just don’t think it’s true, or is significant enough to matter to the direction of travel of AI even if there were something to it. It’s another cope post being lobbed at the idea of AI going somewhere and I’m sick of them.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
> The pelicans are still not ok to this day. If I could take one out of context quote from this whole thread as a response to TFA, it would be this one.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
No, I think people will demand to not live in poverty. Capitalism allows people to escape poverty by personal effort. An AI future won’t allow it by any means other than collective effort, so that’s what we’ll do.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
You seem to have misunderstood my point.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
So your answer is: ignore the progress, it’s not really happening, actually it’s getting worse. That’s not a credible position, but there isn’t anything that I or anyone else can say to someone who simply doesn’t want to believe something.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
I don’t think it’s magic. Things need to actually be made to happen regardless of intelligence, and that’s a social issue. Also if AI were powerful enough to fix everything by itself effortlessly it would already be far too powerful for us
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
UBI probably is the positive outcome, though it may not seem like it to begin with. Initially it will likely be stigmatised and under-resourced, but as a larger proportion of people move out of work and onto UBI that stigma will drop and th
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
There is whatever pressure you bring to bear on it. As long as you are still living in a democracy your vote is the pressure you can apply. If the parties that exist won’t represent you, make new ones that will. Do something rather than dec
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Asking questions about policy and values and pushing to have those resolved in positive ways is about as far away from denial as you can get. It’s possibly the only useful thing an ordinary person can do. What a lot of people want to do, an
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
In the near term handling the transition. Jobs will be lost, careers ended, people won’t be able to reskill quickly enough. At the same time AI is an enormous opportunity to uplift living standards, but nobody has the logistics of this figu
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
I understand your sentiment, but I think this really is something different. This isn’t a craft going away, or even an industry being replaced, it’s potentially everything we do. It’s the ground being pulled away beneath people’s feet, ever
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Yes, this is exactly what is meant by “moving the goalposts”. And it’s a fairly well known expression applying wherever people retroactively change their requirements in reaction to those requirements having been met.
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
> people that can't psychologically cope with the advances of AI Yes. And there are many of them. I wonder what would help them come to terms with it. Seriously, people are going to be grieving over this. Loss of identity, loss of s
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
I can deal with apathy, that’s the norm. What bothers me are all the people who think they can suppress AI by talking it down. That’s what’s counterproductive, just pretend the problem doesn’t exist. Tell other people it doesn’t exist eithe
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
Pretty cool. The impact of AI is getting undeniable, there aren’t many positions left to move the goalposts to at this stage, next they’ll have to be outside the stadium entirely. The sooner people can be broken out of their denial about al
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by Chance-Device 2mo ago
I tend to agree with this also. The idea that the impact of AI is being decided by private companies with no control either by governments or the public doesn’t sit well with me. You need the most regulation where most of the danger is, and

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