Arathorn

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European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Teams(euractiv.com)
358 points by Arathorn 8mo ago|189 comments
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
We’re not trying to obscure anything: we very well know that Tchap’s adoption of Matrix and their current support (Foundation membership, code contributions to Element Web, evangelisation to other countries, etc.) are key to our success, a
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
Yup, DINUM does support the Matrix Foundation, which is appreciated in terms of helping keeping Matrix itself alive and independent. However, this doesn't help support the folks improving & maintaining Element (either its clients o
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
France was one of the first to already adopt Matrix. However, when they began Visio, Element was embedding Jitsi for VoIP. Meanwhile Element built Element Call, which is somewhat similar to Visio (except E2EE and decentralised thanks to Ma
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
Tchap (the chat part of the suite) is indeed a fork of Element. Unfortunately they haven't funded upstream development for many years (otherwise both Element and Tchap would be much much better!) Visio (aka meet) began in parallel with
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
The French video conferencing tool is called Visio, and is here: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet . It uses LiveKit for video, but doesn't yet use Matrix - the hope is to make it speak MatrixRTC so it can in
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
What on earth are you talking about? They do entirely different things! MLS is an E2EE protocol, whereas Matrix is effectively a conversation-syncing protocol which supports multiple E2EE mechanisms, including MLS. Source: Guy who started M
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
I’ve posted a comment on this as Matrix at https://matrix.org/blog/2026/01/28/matrix-on-cloudflare-work... fwiw.
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Matrix on Cloudflare Workers; what could go wrong?(matrix.org)
4 points by Arathorn 9mo ago|2 comments
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
what? that's like saying "you should implement TLS instead of HTTP"! They do entirely different things: MLS is a key agreement protocol, equivalent to the Double Ratchet that Matrix uses for E2EE today. Matrix can use both.
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-rust-sdk/blob/main/CONT... is an example of engineering trying to make a comeback, on the Matrix side at least :)
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
You can see uptake at https://stats.tchap.incubateur.net/public/dashboard/8c6560e3... - looks pretty mainstream. Visio could also use Matrix for E2EE & decentralisation by implementing MatrixRTC - we're t
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
> Either the UI/UX sucks, like Matrix It's ridiculous to say that the UI/UX of a protocol sucks. Matrix has clients with good UX and ones with less good UX (especially in the past). I would challenge anyone to install Elem
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
Synapse via ESS Community ( https://element.io/server-suite/community ), as it just works and is trivial to update, and tracks the best practices from Element in running a deployment with all the Matrix 2.0 stuff (slidin
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
What were meant to be fast-follow fixes to the new left panel after it shipped in September ended up getting starved out by deadlines for paying customers, frustratingly. The work is happening now however.
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
only around 35% of the publicly visible matrix accounts are on matrix.org…
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
Matrix has a pretty comprehensive featureset with clients across a broad range of platforms. The accusations of it being overengineered come typically due to the Synapse server implementation being slow. This is basically an artefact of Mat
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
Synapse has improved; Dendrite has stagnated due to lack of funding; meanwhile there are also rust-native homeservers like Conduit which are beta but smaller footprint. The plan on the Element side is to keep optimising Synapse - the main
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by Arathorn 9mo ago
it's clean room.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
looks like whoever’s run that Element has disabled debug log reporting. not sure i can do much to help here :/
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
Weird. Encryption these days (in Element Web/Desktop and Element X at least) should be pretty robust - although this whole identity reset thing is a known bug on Element Web/Desktop. You can submit debug logs from Settings: Help
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
bleurgh. that issue is very actively under investigation (modulo xmas). please can you submit debug logs from Element Web referencing that issue.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
In theory https://element.io/en/download should provide an equivalent experience.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
No, they all need to know who had permission to read a message which was sent at a given point in the timeline. This is all state groups is: a track of the room state at the point a message was sent: e.g. who has permission to read it.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
the “official matrix website” is basically a wiki that people happen to have PR’d against; it’s updated best effort. In practice EX has threads, 1:1 calls, spaces and SSO now (threads and spaces in labs, as per the OP, but usable)
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
what are you missing? the only things i can think of now are live location sharing, and a thread index?
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
Dendrite did subsequently switch to powering the P2P Matrix work… which also got paused in 2023. We’re currently resurrecting it, but it’s not clear whether Dendrite will be the clientside server impl.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
this is what we effectively did with https://matrix.org/blog/2025/04/introducing-policy-servers (on a per-room basis). the OP is from 2024, and so predates this.
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
ugh, sorry. https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/424... should help significantly with this, and is due to happen in 2026 (it's required for Hydra Phase 2). But it's not there ye
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by Arathorn 10mo ago
thanks for sticking with it and the vote of confidence. totally agreed that Element Web has issues (i'm currently having to run a custom fork to stop it OOMing thanks to https://github.com/element-hq/element-web&#x

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