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Imagine if you could host Facebook that runs only on your friends computers out of reach by motivated parties interested in tracking you for a variety of self b

Imagine if you could host Facebook that runs only on your friends computers out of reach by motivated parties interested in tracking you for a variety of self benefit. Imagine if Youtube ran on everybody's computers, DMCA ignored, every single content imaginable is available. That is where we are going. Anonymous, fault tolerant, ephemeral nodes hosting web services that can't be cracked or spied on. Internet for the people by the people, literally. Pretty soon we'll have mesh networking that will support this as well. ISP in bed with the government? Guess you will have to tap in to the pool of devices running a node for your favorite web service. DMCA notices? Legal threats and take downs against all million devices scattered throughout the world hosting your web service? Arrest that public servant for incompetence!

logfromblammo 11y ago
o/~ Imagine there's no Facebook. I wonder if you can. No need for Snapchat or Twitter, A Diaspora of pods. Imagine all the people, Sharing their content... You may say I'm a dreamer, But I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, And the world will peer-to-peer. o/~ It seems like web freedom is nearly within our grasp. The only problem is a critical mass of adoption.
- curiousjorge 11y ago
  It should feature: - Peer-to-peer proxy mesh network, no internet required. - Automatically discover nearby nodes and connect directly via wifi, bluetooth, internet. - Nodes run in memory, no writing to disk. Constantly discovering and caching indexes of common nodes. - A way to store data fully distributed across the network. You only get a 'piece' of the data, you need to hit more than a certain threshold of nodes to get full piecture. - A self policing of nodes from a ledger of some sort that is distributed and shared by everyone. Bad ones are not punished, they are grouped in their own 'neighborhoods'. Spammers end up spamming each other. - Fully anonymous and risk free. You never hold more than a encrypted piece of the puzzle which alone have no meaning. Only with a certain threshold of nodes can you access that data. The data is constantly shifting across nodes. - While a node is online, it's broadcasting it's piece of the puzzle to other nodes randomly so that if it goes down, the backup is held by another node. I don't know I'm just writing some random ideas so obviously these will need additional work.
PeterisP 11y ago
If we easily could 'host Facebook that .......', then it doesn't mean that we would. People don't use social networks because they have certain features, they use social networks because certain people are there. For some people (let's call them group A), none of these things that you desire are important at all, so they simply won't do it. And quite a few of the actual trendsetters/influencers are in this group - the historical main drivers of social network adoption, e.g. celebrities for twitter, young college girls for facebook, etc - those are the people that cause others to join/switch the new network. And the group is quite large - stats show, for example, that middle-aged women are among the most active users of social networks; would you think that 'anonymous, fault tolerant, ephemeral nodes hosting web services that can't be cracked or spied on' is something that would cause them to switch? For most other people (group B), the restrictions imposed by the centralized services are seen as a minor disadvantage, but a network that doesn't have the people from group A is totally unusable. Perhaps they will join try it out, but their main attention will be on the other networks; so if someone from group B wants to reach/share with someone else from group B... they will do that communication somewhere else, not through your network. And the remainder, those who care (group C)... will have another niche network to talk among themselves.

logfromblammo 11y ago

o/~ Imagine there's no Facebook. I wonder if you can. No need for Snapchat or Twitter, A Diaspora of pods. Imagine all the people, Sharing their content... You may say I'm a dreamer, But I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, And the world will peer-to-peer. o/~ It seems like web freedom is nearly within our grasp. The only problem is a critical mass of adoption.

curiousjorge 11y ago
It should feature: - Peer-to-peer proxy mesh network, no internet required. - Automatically discover nearby nodes and connect directly via wifi, bluetooth, internet. - Nodes run in memory, no writing to disk. Constantly discovering and caching indexes of common nodes. - A way to store data fully distributed across the network. You only get a 'piece' of the data, you need to hit more than a certain threshold of nodes to get full piecture. - A self policing of nodes from a ledger of some sort that is distributed and shared by everyone. Bad ones are not punished, they are grouped in their own 'neighborhoods'. Spammers end up spamming each other. - Fully anonymous and risk free. You never hold more than a encrypted piece of the puzzle which alone have no meaning. Only with a certain threshold of nodes can you access that data. The data is constantly shifting across nodes. - While a node is online, it's broadcasting it's piece of the puzzle to other nodes randomly so that if it goes down, the backup is held by another node. I don't know I'm just writing some random ideas so obviously these will need additional work.

PeterisP 11y ago

If we easily could 'host Facebook that .......', then it doesn't mean that we would. People don't use social networks because they have certain features, they use social networks because certain people are there. For some people (let's call them group A), none of these things that you desire are important at all, so they simply won't do it. And quite a few of the actual trendsetters/influencers are in this group - the historical main drivers of social network adoption, e.g. celebrities for twitter, young college girls for facebook, etc - those are the people that cause others to join/switch the new network. And the group is quite large - stats show, for example, that middle-aged women are among the most active users of social networks; would you think that 'anonymous, fault tolerant, ephemeral nodes hosting web services that can't be cracked or spied on' is something that would cause them to switch? For most other people (group B), the restrictions imposed by the centralized services are seen as a minor disadvantage, but a network that doesn't have the people from group A is totally unusable. Perhaps they will join try it out, but their main attention will be on the other networks; so if someone from group B wants to reach/share with someone else from group B... they will do that communication somewhere else, not through your network. And the remainder, those who care (group C)... will have another niche network to talk among themselves.