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I got a degree but am still unemployable because I didn't have a job when I graduated and apparently nobody hires unemployed people. It's like there's just some

I got a degree but am still unemployable because I didn't have a job when I graduated and apparently nobody hires unemployed people. It's like there's just some tiny step I need to get over. Recently a recruiters said all I needed was a little Java experience and I could be making a lot of money. But I have plenty of Java experience, why can't I find a job anywhere? The worst thing about all of this is how harsh and degrading everyone is when you want to get into the industry. Questions are met with disgust derision, as if you are spoiling everyone's worldview. But I am just trying to describe my experience for survival reasons.

mratzloff 11y ago
Programming Java in school is not really what they mean by "Java experience". They mean personal projects, freelance projects, etc. > The worst thing about all of this is how harsh and degrading everyone is when you want to get into the industry. Questions are met with disgust derision, as if you are spoiling everyone's worldview. But I am just trying to describe my experience for survival reasons. I have no idea what this super vague paragraph means.
- teirce 11y ago
  >I have no idea what this super vague paragraph means. I think this thread serves as a good example. Someone wrote a blog post saying "I'm having trouble finding a job." Look at the top comment, it's basically saying "You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, get out of here. Clearly you're doing something wrong, but I'm not going to try to actually address this problem or help you. Shoo now, you're ruining our perfect view of the tech sector."
  - mratzloff 11y ago
    So, one, that's not what the top comment is saying. Two, there are dozens of other comments that try to help the OP, despite how vague his blog post is on specifics which could actually be used to help him. Based on those missing details and the fact that he has not replied to this thread, is it more likely he was looking for help or simply looking to vent to a large audience?
obstacle1 11y ago
>Recently a recruiters said all I needed was a little Java experience and I could be making a lot of money. But I have plenty of Java experience, why can't I find a job anywhere? Maybe you have personality defects which make people unwilling to work with you, but you are blind to them. Therapy could help you to identify whether or not the case, and if it is, to get better.
3minus1 11y ago
Keep trying. It's a numbers game and as long as you're getting interviews you're on the right track.
nordic_nomad 11y ago
Make your own job man, if you did any freelance work then you were self employed. If you find yourself unemployed, hack on something in between interviews and call it a startup that didn't work out. Never, never, never admit to any hiring person that you weren't in charge of your career path at all times. That's one of the few distinctions they can make with technical people about whether or not they're qualified or not. Don't make it easy for them.
- strathmeyer 11y ago
  ...but, I've never been in charge of my career path. There have never been any jobs for us. Yes I work on video games in my free time but now I have been doing it for a decade and I have never found anyone to show my games to. The problem isn't that my startup did work out, the problem is that my life isn't working out. How am I supposed to feed myself every day if I don't have money? How am I supposed to program every day when I can't feed myself. Every day I am slipping further and further behind and nobody has any clue what to do. I don't have any clue how to talk to hiring people. Ever since I got a degree, they were experts at fishing the worst things out of my life that somehow disqualified me from employment. Whether it was a bad grade I got somewhere that is somehow completely my fault, or the way I am supposed to ask and beg for a job as an unemployed person. If I knew how to make my own job I wouldn't be starving and homeless.
- strathmeyer 11y ago
  ...but, I've never been in charge of my career path. There have never been any jobs for us. Yes I work on video games in my free time but now I have been doing it for a decade and I have never found anyone to show my games to. The problem isn't that my startup did work out, the problem is that my life isn't working out. How am I supposed to feed myself every day if I don't have money? How am I supposed to program every day when I can't feed myself. Every day I am slipping further and further behind and nobody has any clue what to do. I don't have any clue how to talk to hiring people. Ever since I got a degree, they were experts at fishing the worst things out of my life that somehow disqualified me from employment. Whether it was a bad grade I got somewhere that is somehow completely my fault, or the way I am supposed to ask and beg for a job as an unemployed person. If I knew how to make my own job I wouldn't be starving and homeless.

mratzloff 11y ago

Programming Java in school is not really what they mean by "Java experience". They mean personal projects, freelance projects, etc. > The worst thing about all of this is how harsh and degrading everyone is when you want to get into the industry. Questions are met with disgust derision, as if you are spoiling everyone's worldview. But I am just trying to describe my experience for survival reasons. I have no idea what this super vague paragraph means.

teirce 11y ago
>I have no idea what this super vague paragraph means. I think this thread serves as a good example. Someone wrote a blog post saying "I'm having trouble finding a job." Look at the top comment, it's basically saying "You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, get out of here. Clearly you're doing something wrong, but I'm not going to try to actually address this problem or help you. Shoo now, you're ruining our perfect view of the tech sector."
- mratzloff 11y ago
  So, one, that's not what the top comment is saying. Two, there are dozens of other comments that try to help the OP, despite how vague his blog post is on specifics which could actually be used to help him. Based on those missing details and the fact that he has not replied to this thread, is it more likely he was looking for help or simply looking to vent to a large audience?

obstacle1 11y ago

>Recently a recruiters said all I needed was a little Java experience and I could be making a lot of money. But I have plenty of Java experience, why can't I find a job anywhere? Maybe you have personality defects which make people unwilling to work with you, but you are blind to them. Therapy could help you to identify whether or not the case, and if it is, to get better.

3minus1 11y ago

Keep trying. It's a numbers game and as long as you're getting interviews you're on the right track.

nordic_nomad 11y ago

Make your own job man, if you did any freelance work then you were self employed. If you find yourself unemployed, hack on something in between interviews and call it a startup that didn't work out. Never, never, never admit to any hiring person that you weren't in charge of your career path at all times. That's one of the few distinctions they can make with technical people about whether or not they're qualified or not. Don't make it easy for them.

strathmeyer 11y ago
...but, I've never been in charge of my career path. There have never been any jobs for us. Yes I work on video games in my free time but now I have been doing it for a decade and I have never found anyone to show my games to. The problem isn't that my startup did work out, the problem is that my life isn't working out. How am I supposed to feed myself every day if I don't have money? How am I supposed to program every day when I can't feed myself. Every day I am slipping further and further behind and nobody has any clue what to do. I don't have any clue how to talk to hiring people. Ever since I got a degree, they were experts at fishing the worst things out of my life that somehow disqualified me from employment. Whether it was a bad grade I got somewhere that is somehow completely my fault, or the way I am supposed to ask and beg for a job as an unemployed person. If I knew how to make my own job I wouldn't be starving and homeless.
strathmeyer 11y ago
...but, I've never been in charge of my career path. There have never been any jobs for us. Yes I work on video games in my free time but now I have been doing it for a decade and I have never found anyone to show my games to. The problem isn't that my startup did work out, the problem is that my life isn't working out. How am I supposed to feed myself every day if I don't have money? How am I supposed to program every day when I can't feed myself. Every day I am slipping further and further behind and nobody has any clue what to do. I don't have any clue how to talk to hiring people. Ever since I got a degree, they were experts at fishing the worst things out of my life that somehow disqualified me from employment. Whether it was a bad grade I got somewhere that is somehow completely my fault, or the way I am supposed to ask and beg for a job as an unemployed person. If I knew how to make my own job I wouldn't be starving and homeless.