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I can't trust them. They have 0g of cholesterol yet it's an important part of a healthy diet. This rings of "marketing diet" to me.

by xutopia 11y ago

jobigoud 11y ago
Cholesterol is produced by your own body just fine. In food, it only comes from animal products, so you are basically saying that any and all vegan diets are unhealthy/marketing. Dietitians (and millions of vegans) beg to differ.
- megaman22 11y ago
  I would argue that most vegan diets are unhealthy. You have to work damned hard to get the same nutrients that are readily available in animal products.
  - enlightenedfool 11y ago
    You could just argue, but the country I come from has millions of vegetarians who are as healthy as animal eating and live as long.
    - adwn 11y ago
      > [...] millions of vegetarians who are as healthy as animal eating [...] Note that megaman22 said "vegan", not "vegetarian".
  - PretzelPirate 11y ago
    Eating vegan is no more difficult than eating non-vegan. The only extra step is taking a B12 supplement if you don't eat one of the many B12 fortified products.
tdaltonc 11y ago
https://diy.soylent.com/wiki/other-nutrients https://diy.soylent.com/wiki/other-nutrients
dspillett 11y ago
It has been found that most cholesterol in food just passes straight through you, most of the cholesterol outside your digestive tract is produced (by your liver IIRC) as a product of working on other things like large fat molecules. People used to think that cholesterol directly in food was the big bad here because the sorts of foods with high cholesterol also tend to be high in the stuff the body uses to make its own meaning there was a significant correlation. Silly high cholesterol in your diet is probably still bad, but very low is likely fine (as long as you have the right balance of everything else, of course). This does mean that I have trouble trusting something like Soylent though: as we are still finding surprises like this because we don't fully understand how our bodies process nutrients, we can't be sure that a food replacement product like this is as healthy as intended and not potentially causing new problems. It is an interesting experiment to watch as an outsider though. I wonder if any independent researchers are yet doing well run long term comparative analysis on people using this stuff compared to other replacements and more "normal" diets? People are willingly taking it, so you don't have the ethics comity problem of convincing people to let you feed the stuff to humans as they are already feeing it to themselves and you are just watching the results.

I can't trust them. They have 0g of cholesterol yet it's an important part of a healthy diet. This rings of "marketing diet" to me.

by xutopia 11y ago

I can't trust them. They have 0g of cholesterol yet it's an important part of a healthy diet. This rings of "marketing diet" to me.

jobigoud 11y ago

Cholesterol is produced by your own body just fine. In food, it only comes from animal products, so you are basically saying that any and all vegan diets are unhealthy/marketing. Dietitians (and millions of vegans) beg to differ.

megaman22 11y ago
I would argue that most vegan diets are unhealthy. You have to work damned hard to get the same nutrients that are readily available in animal products.
- enlightenedfool 11y ago
  You could just argue, but the country I come from has millions of vegetarians who are as healthy as animal eating and live as long.
  - adwn 11y ago
    > [...] millions of vegetarians who are as healthy as animal eating [...] Note that megaman22 said "vegan", not "vegetarian".
- PretzelPirate 11y ago
  Eating vegan is no more difficult than eating non-vegan. The only extra step is taking a B12 supplement if you don't eat one of the many B12 fortified products.

tdaltonc 11y ago

https://diy.soylent.com/wiki/other-nutrients https://diy.soylent.com/wiki/other-nutrients

dspillett 11y ago

It has been found that most cholesterol in food just passes straight through you, most of the cholesterol outside your digestive tract is produced (by your liver IIRC) as a product of working on other things like large fat molecules. People used to think that cholesterol directly in food was the big bad here because the sorts of foods with high cholesterol also tend to be high in the stuff the body uses to make its own meaning there was a significant correlation. Silly high cholesterol in your diet is probably still bad, but very low is likely fine (as long as you have the right balance of everything else, of course). This does mean that I have trouble trusting something like Soylent though: as we are still finding surprises like this because we don't fully understand how our bodies process nutrients, we can't be sure that a food replacement product like this is as healthy as intended and not potentially causing new problems. It is an interesting experiment to watch as an outsider though. I wonder if any independent researchers are yet doing well run long term comparative analysis on people using this stuff compared to other replacements and more "normal" diets? People are willingly taking it, so you don't have the ethics comity problem of convincing people to let you feed the stuff to humans as they are already feeing it to themselves and you are just watching the results.