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Soylent 2.0
- deanstag 11y agoSome time back, i had read about a very noticeable flatulence issue for soylent drinkers. Was that ever addressed?
- johnatwork 11y agoI believe so in the last batch
- eigenvalue 11y agoEh, I can say from personal experience that the problem has not been fully solved in version 1.5 of the powder (and probably can't be). Your gut flora need time to readjust, and until then-- beware!
- weston 11y agoI believe it was. Also, anecdotally speaking, it's very common for people who don't get enough protein or fiber in the their diets to have some flatulence when they start adding more. After a short adjustment period their body gets used to it and the flatulence stops.
- xirdstl 11y agoIn my experience, there was some issue with 1.0 and 1.1, and 1.2 was the worst offender. 1.3 fixed it, which was refreshing! I can't speak to 1.4 or 1.5, because having been disappointed in 1.4, I've hoarded 1.3
- gnoway 11y agoI've been a Soylent drinker since 1.0. I've had 1.0, 1.1, 1.3 and 1.4. The biggest formula change in terms of flatulence for me was 1.3 -> 1.4. They dropped the fiber substantially and replaced some of the oats (and most of the maltodextrin) with isomaltulose. I'm still gassy but it's nothing like 1.0/1.1, where I had uncomfortable levels of gas approximately 100% of the time.
- EarthLaunch 11y agoGiven that soy is one of the common allergens, this sounds amazing (especially with it being high-fat which matches modern nutritional science) except for the soy. They should make one called "Soylent -1.0" or something. Are there any alternatives?
- Raphmedia 11y agoWell, the product is named soylent after all... !
- codebeaker 11y agoI also am consistently disappointed by their reliance on wheat and soy proteins, I'm allergic (IgE) to both and struggle horribly to find typical office-lunch type food I can eat. Also being in the EU it's very difficult and expensive to procure Soylent anyway, even the alt. recipes as all of the Amazon shopping lists link to the US stores. Particularly the typical 3lb bag of flour, a couple of bucks in the US store is being sold for €200 on the German amazon store, presumably by someone trying to game people who've clicked a pre-filled-basket link on an Amazon shopping list.
- gnoway 11y agoThis is actually a large departure from all prior formulas, which used brown rice protein exclusively. Their product has never had any wheat in it and the only soy was the soy lecithin emulsifier. This change from rice -> soy and from powdered to bottle - the wording makes it sound like you need 5 bottles per day - is making me think it's time to cancel.
- weston 11y agoI believe they're keeping the powdered option.
- EarthLaunch 11y agoOuch, that lack of distribution must be frustrating there. I think you're right a drink could really cash in on (and help) people who can't eat normally.
- clamprecht 11y agoThis kills me, it means I can no longer bring 20 pounds of soylent back to Argentina with me (in powder form). Or will they continue to sell soylent in powder form?
- rickyc091 11y agoI'm guessing they'll probably phase out soylent 1.5 (aka powder form), but you can still purchase it at the moment.
- Veedrac 11y agoThe Verge claims that the powder will also eventually use algae sources, and it's still on sale now, so one would assume it's not being discontinued. http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/3/9088407/soylent-20-bottled-ready-to-drink-meal-replacement http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/3/9088407/soylent-20-bottled-... EDIT: Ars Technica has a quote saying "We're always going to keep our powdered product around". http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/soylent-2-0-is-coming-pre-mixed-in-a-bottle/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/soylent-2-0-is-coming...
- johnatwork 11y agoNow available in Canada! I'll finally be able to try this, do current drinkers like the 1.5? Or is 2.0 such an improvement that I should wait for 2.0? edit - Oh I guess the main thing is that it's a drink now.
- antihero 11y agoSeems odd that we're at 2.0 now and it's still not available in the EU - is there a legal reason for this?
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- jcfrei 11y agoImporting food or nutritional supplements into the EU is difficult because the EU still has a very protective agricultural policy. You might have to look at competitors such as mymana.
- Dorian-Marie 11y agoThanks, here is their website: http://mymana.eu/ http://mymana.eu/ I couldn't buy Soylent (I'm in France), so I made one myself based on what I learned in the DIY Soylent community: https://diy.soylent.com https://diy.soylent.com
- philippnagel 11y agoI occasionally replace a meal with Mana (e.g. when I am busy, lazy, etc.). If anyone wants a small review, just ask.
- marmaduke 11y agoyep, I'm interested in somethign to replace lunch at work: do you find it filling/satisfying? Do you drink warm or cold? What keeps you from drinking it more often?
- philippnagel 11y agoDefinitely. Not overly full (which is a good thing when working) and enough to last until dinner/the next meal when adhering to a three meal diet. Cold, out of the fridge. I tend to replace those meals which would usually involve some form of fast food and the likes. When time is of the essence and I don't want to think about food.
- koevet 11y agoIs Soylent ever going to be sold in Europe? I would love to try it.
- cromulen 11y agoTry http://www.joylent.eu http://www.joylent.eu It's the european clone. I love it.
- sneak 11y agoI vastly prefer http://jakeshake.eu http://jakeshake.eu.
- dogma1138 11y agoJake's shake makeup is more of a gainer shake (proteins + carbs) for athletes. It's not a good full nutritional replacement, and it's caloric balance is for people who exercise daily and quite intensely. If you want to take that then take just the normal gain shakes or better off buy a protein shake powder and a carb powder add to it some of those silly fiber powder drinks you buy at the wellness store and mix it yourself for a better balance with less calories per "meal" it will taste considerably better and be cheaper. Mana is slightly better although I'm not sold on it's nutritional make up either, I've been using it to avoid eating total crap when I'm swamped or have to work late since it's better to chug down it than order another 10" pizza or a burger when you have to work late. For any of these "replacements" to be valid they need to do 2 things a) develop a full diet regime with supplementary real food mixed in like week on week off or something, b) add actual non-liquid food products. Eating a liquid diet even for a couple of weeks will really screw you up, humans didn't evolved to eat only liquid food heck the standing recommendation for babies is to actually skip or cut down the period of "baby food" for as much as possible. As soon as the baby can chew food he should be chewing it, the chewing action is actually a very important mechanism as it's a que for your body to release certain enzymes which are responsible for absorbing nutriments, it's also a mood stabilizer as chewing is a major mechanism in controlling serotonin production as well as other neurotransmitters. Liquid meals also have a bad effect on the various tenants in our GI track, liquid food changes the PH level of your GI which makes it less hospitable, it is absorbed quicker and so our good friends from down below cannot get their portion of the meal, solid food also serves a role as a GI "cleaner" as it moves it scrapes dead tissue and bacterial cultures of the GI walls. So yeah nice, cheap and very hipsterie, but if you don't want to have major GI issues don't rely on this as a sole source of subsistence, do not use it for long periods and go see a doctor before and during taking this crap.
- feld 11y agoMy first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog foods -- kibble, while even the most expensive brands claim to be "nutritionally complete", miss the fact that dogs cannot process/absorb the many nutrients within (and why their waste is... more than a nuisance). Eg, calcium added to dog food is nearly worthless, while calcium from eating raw bones is readily absorbed by their bodies. Same with many other vitamins and minerals. We have a lot of work ahead of us in this sector. It's good that someone is trying, though.
- ioeu 11y ago"Soylent 2.0 makes complete nutrition accessible to all ..." "All", assuming you're in the USA or Canada.. I actually thought it meant they were gonna start shipping to more countries! Bummer.
- noxToken 11y agoThere is DIY Soylent. I have not personally tried any recipe from this website. I did, however, recommend it to a friend who is into this type of stuff. He tried a chocolate recipe for bodybuilding (most likely the the top rated one). If you're that interested in Soylent, you can always try one of these. https://diy.soylent.com/ https://diy.soylent.com/
- secstate 11y agoPretty disappointing that their big selling point is moot when it a) can't be sold outside US/Canada and b) aggressively tries to up-sell a subscription which actual people in poverty will have no interest in being tied to The whole thing smacks of feel-good marketing for investors, while truthfully marketing to white-collar office workers.
- leaveyou 11y agoSoylent might be there (US) but it's not here (EU) yet.. :(
- geekingfrog 11y agoThere are plenty of alternatives in the EU: https://queal.eu/ https://queal.eu/ http://mymana.eu/ http://mymana.eu/ https://www.joylent.eu/ https://www.joylent.eu/ https://jakeshake.eu/ https://jakeshake.eu/ and many more I'm sure
- tom_usher 11y agoCan someone explain to me the appeal of this product? Why would anyone choose to drink a nondescript sludge over the plentiful ways we can get good, enjoyable & healthy food? I can certainly appreciate the science behind it - this would be a great boon to helping feed those that are less fortunate, but from what I can see that doesn't appear to be the aim of the company.
- nightcracker 11y agoPrice and laziness. It's a lot cheaper than eating out, and (often) a bit cheaper than cooking yourself. On top of that, it's a lot easier to just shake a bottle and eat than to cook.
- normloman 11y agoIt may be faster than cooking for yourself, but not always cheaper. http://www.watchusthrive.org/Libraries/Resources_Documents/Budget_Factsheet-2011.sflb.ashx http://www.watchusthrive.org/Libraries/Resources_Documents/B...
- Renevith 11y agoSoylent actually competes pretty well on price too! The calories on those recipes range from 140 to 386 per $1 serving. That's $5-14 for 2000 calories, while the new Soylent formula is $12. (Slightly more if you don't subscribe, slightly less if you get the powder formula instead of pre-mixed.) Plus, the recipe cost assumptions must be pretty generous to get to $1. One of the recipes calls for 1 pound of ground beef and makes 6 servings. The flyer for my local discount grocery has the ground beef at $4.50, but the nicer grocery nearer to me is already over $6 just for the meat, let alone two cans of tomato sauce, some pasta, some carrots, shredded cheese... I'll bet in a real-world test of those recipes, Soylent would beat the average cost.
- coherentpony 11y agoLifestyle? IIRC, the creator of Soylent had a busy lifestyle and as a result barely had time to cook or eat and that's why he created Soylent.
- conorh 11y agoI tried Soylent 1.5 for about a month (not as my sole food source, but for maybe one meal a day), but I was unable to adjust to it well, my stomach was just constantly upset and I didn't feel great after eating it. I then tried Nutren 1.5 [1] thinking it might be different, but same effect for me, so I guess it is just me. I'm going to try 2.0 again, maybe I'll do it in smaller doses at first and see if I can adjust that way. Has anyone else experienced this? [1] http://www.amazon.com/Nutren-Calorie-Vanilla-Nutrition-8-45-Ounce/dp/B0025UOGMQ http://www.amazon.com/Nutren-Calorie-Vanilla-Nutrition-8-45-...
- anentropic 11y agowhy? why not just eat good food? !
- algorithmsRcool 11y agoIt's a lot easier thank cooking or preparing most foods and very portable. I doubt many people are trying to live off the stuff exclusively.
- tashoecraft 11y agoAs someone currently using soylent to replace my lunch during the work week I can tell you the reasons not to eat "good food". I cook every single one of the my breakfasts and dinners and strive to make a balanced, healthy meal. But I struggle to consistently bring a healthy lunch. My preparation methods don't keep up, I get bored, it turns out to not be a very balanced meal, etc. So instead I use soylent to avoid eating out every day, which the high majority of the people I work with do. I also save around $10 a day doing this. I eat plenty of good food, I love food, and I love cooking. I just also enjoy my soylent method of lunch.
- prawn 11y agoIf you're cooking dinner already, don't you just make a little bit extra so as to have leftovers for the next day's lunch?
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- dandare 11y agoI don't understand the pricing - do I need 12 bottles per month or 96? How much do I need to live only off Soylent?
- gnoway 11y agoTheir prior formulas were supposed to hit 100% RDA on vitamins/minerals for 2000 kcal. Based on that and their claim that one bottle is 20% RDA, I'd say each bottle is 400kcal. If true, and you need 2000kcal a day, you're going to need 140 bottles per 4 weeks (~12 cases). At $29/12 that's going to be ~$348, which is about $100/mo more than a 4 week subscription supply is today ($255).
- leftandright 11y agoThey also raised the price of the powder today. They eliminated the bulk discounts so a month worth is more expensive. It is $280 for a 4 week subscription supply today.
- xirdstl 11y ago96 won't get you a month. Each bottle is 400 calories, so you'd need five per day, assuming a 2000 calorie diet. You'd need around 150.
- agounaris 11y agoStop feeding yourself with this shit and start adapting a balanced died with plenty of exercise. If you don't have time, make some!
- explorigin 11y agoSelling bottles is really terrible from an environmental perspective. It's sort of the same problem as bottled water. Now we have a lot of plastic bottle trash instead of the pouches that pack down flat and provide much more product/waste ratio. Plastic bottles are more recyclable but recycling bins are still not common in my area of the country (although we recycle at home). There is also the increased fuel costs of shipment. One more question is where is the bottling happens. If it's in California like the development labs, is it contributing to the drought there a la Nestle water-bottling?
- jonathancordeau 11y agoSoylent < 2.0 seemed to leverage the promise of easy shipping/portability, which > 2.0 seems to lose? Soylent as a sustainable nutrition source in areas where it's far superior to what little nutrition may be available, is less likely stable in liquid form. It's a shame, as this seemed to be one of the greatest promises of the brand beyond convenience. Not sure what the differentiation is anymore, amongst other MRP's such as Phood.
- anoplus 11y agoWhat about digestive enzymes and all that? I am still unsure about efficiency of absorption with liquids.
- Wintamute 11y agoWhy spend energy producing and transporting heavy water and plastic bottles with this pre-mixed Soylent? Everyone already has plentiful water and receptacles at home. Seems like a retrograde step, unless I'm missing something?
- kondro 11y agoSoylent has a better texture after hydrating for some time.
- turtlebits 11y agoIt also goes bad in 3-4 days, even refrigerated.
- jimrandomh 11y agoThat probably won't happen to the bottles, since they can make them sterile. When you mix it yourself you let microbes from the air get in.
- viewer5 11y agoFrom what I've read (I think in the most recent Ars Technica article on it, not counting today's 2.0 one), soylent has to sit for a while in the fridge after you make it or it's absolutely awful.
- saddestcatever 11y agoTrue. I'm on my first batch of 1.5 right now. The instructions are pretty clear about it needing to be cold. Room-temperature, the Soylent mix is pretty gnarly (think chalk), but once properly chilled it pretty much tastes like nothing.
- fudged71 11y agoPeople will pay a premium for convenience. Also the convenience could allow them to sell these as individual drinks in grocery stores and convenience stores.
- xirdstl 11y agoIf I'm not mistaken, they have also increased the price of the powder. It is listed now at $280 for 28 days (112 meals), which used to be $255 (when I bought it). Or had they already changed that pricing?
- ph0rque 11y agoHaving tried soylent in powder form before, I came to the conclusion that on the 3D scales of convenience, taste, and price, it just wasn't far enough in the desirable region (low price, high convenience, and good taste) that I was ready to buy any more of it. With Soylent 2.0, that seems to have changed: it's more convenient (no more mixing needed) EDIT: but higher-priced. I'm looking forward to trying it again (not until it's generally available, though). Hopefully the taste has improved, as well.
- gh02t 11y ago> Hopefully the taste has improved Yeah, to me the powder is absolutely wretched tasting on its own without adding stuff. I've heard people say they like it plain, but I gag just thinking about it.
- ph0rque 11y agoI didn't have any negative feelings toward the taste of soylent 1.x. However, I did realize just how much I enjoy the taste of real, good food.
- Someone1234 11y agoHow do you figure this is lower priced? Seems like a massive price increase to me.
- ph0rque 11y agoWasn't it $3+ per meal before? EDIT: You're right, you need 1 and 2/3 of a bottle to drink the equivalent of a meal... sneaky sneaky, Soylent!
- dangrossman 11y agoThe powder was $9.11 per 2000 calories on subscription. The drinks are $12.10 per 2000 calories.
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- anon3_ 11y ago> Not only are its ingredients vegan, Soylent 2.0 reaches an unprecedented level of environmental sustainability with half of its fat energy coming from farm-free, algae sources. This next generation agricultural technology has the potential to reduce the ecological impact of food production by orders of magnitude, signifying a major step towards a future of abundance, a world where optimal nutrition is the new normal Is this like a giant parody of the gullible shepherding of American consumers? This is pablum. You can cook. You can make your own, custom meals that fit your macros. That are fresh and give you variety.
- pramalin 11y agoSoy is a big no within the Paleo diet group I know. This is because it's potent with Phytic acid which binds to other nutrients and turn them into waste. Consumers beware.
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- tdaltonc 11y agoThey've considered that: http://discourse.soylent.com/t/phytic-acid-not-enough-of-it-to-be-an-issue/4256 http://discourse.soylent.com/t/phytic-acid-not-enough-of-it-...
- mattdeboard 11y agoThe incorrect hyphenation of "ground-up" in the second sentence is hilarious and kind of disgusting.
- smanuel 11y agoI'm amazed by how FDA regulates drugs and how it regulates... actually how it doesn't regulate, supplements and things like Soylent, which is not even a supplement but claims to be food "that possesses all the essential ingredients a body needs to be healthy". Studies anyone? Maybe it does contain all the essential ingredients but maybe the human body can't process them effectively. Maybe it's not very healthy taking all these ingredients every day. Maybe in the long run it'll have bad effect on the microbiome, intestinal mucosa or on million other things in the human body. Whenever someone question those things, the answer is "But it's better than junk food". Well... Edit: Ok, my bad, it's actually regulated as a food [1]. [1] https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/200789315-Nutrition https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/200789315-Nutritio...
- nsxwolf 11y agoIs it people yet?
- secstate 11y agoJust looking at the product page makes me feel like I'm in a PKD short story.
- electricblue 11y agoFor me Soylent would have to be incredibly inexpensive to replace a meal or two a day. I like the idea of a cheap way to avoid going out when I don't feel like cooking, but I'm thinking ~$30 a month to replace a meal a day, not $102
- stephengillie 11y agoMany of us aren't aware of our monthly food spending. If you were at a store, would you really stick with the $1 ramen lunch, or would you go for the $3.30 snack pack? Do that once a day for a month and you have the same situation.
- artimaeis 11y agoUnless I'm looking at the 2.0 pricing chart incorrectly - wouldn't 1 meal a day be $87? $58 if you don't want to bother with it on the weekends..
- buckbova 11y agoI drink a syntha-6 protein shake every morning after working out or as a quick meal replacement and it works great. Costs about a buck a serving.
- driverdan 11y agoEspecially since you can make the same thing at home in 5 min for <$1.
- pbreit 11y agoI presume the biggest difference has already been discussed previously: the switch from powder to liquid? Liquid definitely seems more convenient but apparently more expensive (to ship as well). I suppose this was inevitable but surprised that the appears to be deprecating.
- pmlamotte 11y ago"We’re always going to keep our powdered product around" http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/soylent-2-0-is-coming-pre-mixed-in-a-bottle/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/soylent-2-0-is-coming...
- JohnTHaller 11y agoSoylent 2.0 (liquid) is being sold alongside Soylent 1.5 (powder). The powder will continue to be sold. The liquid currently costs a little over 20% more per kcal. It's also important to note that the liquid is being sold as 400kcal is a serving (X bottles at 400kcal each) while the powder is being sold as 500kcal/16 oz prepared is a serving (X meals at 500kcal each with 4 meals to a pouch/28 meals to a box). At the 400 kcal serving size, the 28 meal box of powder would become 35 servings of equivalent calories to the liquid. Getting 2 boxes with 14 pouches to be 2 weeks worth of food is easier and takes up far less storage space than getting 72 bottles of liquid for the equivalent amount of food. We use Soylent powder right now. Had it for breakfast this morning. The taste is really neutral... it tastes like a bland cereal, so you can add things to if if you want. It's helped us lose weight. It's helped us keep food costs down. And it's helped us enjoy the meals we do eat. We use it as a supplement for 1 or 2 meals a day.
- pbreit 11y agoI can see the convenience of liquid but it's seems highly inefficient distribution-wise. I wonder if there's another way to distribute it such as a bar?
- feedjoelpie 11y agoI'm going to take a not-that-wild guess and suggest that they're completely aware of the inefficiency and moved forward with it because A) it gives the company a fatter profit margin when the customer is paying for less Soylent and more water, and B) this is the best way to move toward getting Soylent into the corner store refrigerator.
- rayalez 11y agoI looked through the thread and I see too many negative comments. Guys, let's take a minute to appreciate how freakin' amazing Soylent is. It's like a space food every kid dreams about. It is insanely convenient. It can solve so many problems in the world. Thank you, Soylent team, I wish you luck, your startup is amazing!
- brandonmenc 11y ago> let's take a minute to appreciate how freakin' amazing Soylent is Soylent just markets a standard weight gainer as a total food replacement. Not sure why this is "freakin' amazing."
- rayalez 11y ago> Soylent just markets a standard weight gainer as a total food replacement. I do not understand why people think it's okay to make such assertions without backing them up. Is it not obvious to you that this statement is just plain false? If you think Soylent lacks something to be a total food replacement, or have any constructive criticism - please share it with us. But don't just throw random silly things out there.
- brandonmenc 11y ago> If you think Soylent lacks something to be a total food replacement That's not what I'm saying. Everyone is like, "Soylent is revolutionary." But when you look at the ingredients in a mass gainer, particularly something like Aronld Iron Mass, they're nearly identical. Maybe some slight vitamin tweaking to make a bodybuilding weight gainer a full food replacement, but really, that's not "revolutionary." Soylent is the same old ingredients, different marketing. What's "revolutionary" is they're touting them as a food replacement, which I'm guessing supplement manufacturers avoid doing for fear of liability.
- ajslater 11y agoFor instance: you can stop by http://www.truenutrition.com/ http://www.truenutrition.com/ or scores of other custom and premixed Meal Replacement Powder websites and get something cheaper and customized to your own activities and lifestyle. Hospitals regularly feed people pre-mixed meal replacements when chewing food is not an option. Soylent is just another old MRP with stupid "geek" marketing. Which should come as no surprise as the rest of the athletic supplement and MRP market is also just basic macronutrients and hokum with "bro" marketing. I can't wait for Soylent Monster Xtreme with Branched Chain Amino Acids. There's nothing wrong with it. Its probably no more over-priced than GNC. The only new things about it is its press on tech sites. Which you think might know better, but the tech world is so narrow minded that obvious cons like this one can turn into a viable business.
- seizethecheese 11y agoWith regard to the liquid vs. powdered debate. Why don't they ship bottles with powder inside? Consumers can then add water and shake. Seems like the best of both worlds. This would work for a variety of products as well like dish soap or shampoo.
- brianmcconnell 11y agoI've never really understood the hype for Soylent. It does seem like a great idea for your earthquake kit, camping, etc, but as daily food? If I am rushed for time, I'll just grab an Odwalla smoothie or similar. Can someone educate me about what I am not getting from a decent smoothie that Soylent provides? (I am probably not the target demographic as I enjoy eating, and variety).
- angryasian 11y agoWell if you were to drink the daily recommended amount which I break up to 4 160z drinks, you will have the recommended daily nutritional goals set by the FDA (I believe). Drinking 4 16oz smoothies won't give you the same nutritional value. I think the biggest misconception is that it needs to be a total food replacement. I think its easier to track what I'm putting in my body and count calories. The formula is essentially open source and can be tweaked for your dietary needs.
- tedks 11y agoBased on the last time I looked at a label on a 12-20ish (I don't know the size offhand) Odwalla bottle, it's probably about 2-300 calories, mostly from sugars, with 0 fat, little protein (unless it's a supplemented flavor which I'm not sure Odwalla makes), maybe some vitamins but not fortified either. A meal of Soylent is 679 calories with exactly a third of all your daily requirements. It is literally a battery for humans. If you eat anything but Soylent it is a literal certainty you are slowly starving yourself of nutrients you just happen to not get in your preferred diet. This makes sense, because, like many things, humans aren't automatically optimal at engineering diets. This is why we have startups, because they can take this crazy idea (what if we made the optimal utility food), take VC funding, and create something special. Never before in human history have we been so privileged and lucky to be alive.
- skybrian 11y agoAnyone know what the shelf life is? Does it need to be refrigerated? In the Ars Technica interview they say that thepowder has much longer shelf life, but that's as far as it goes.
- csarva 11y agoIt says one year shelf life, unrefrigerated.
- cmiller1 11y agoIt says it's completely vegan but they say the Isomaltulose is from honey? Isn't honey non-vegan? Are they just saying that it occurs in honey but they used a different source?
- nakedrobot2 11y agoIf I'm travelling on business, or on a road trip, where there are sometimes no good options at all for healthy food, then this product wins hands-down. I have zero interest in replacing my entire diet with it, and I love good food but sometimes it is simply incompatible with one's schedule. This company can really be a big winner.
- tugberkk 11y agoI am truly sorry, but I see this as sad. People thinking of supplements healthier than whole foods, and actually claiming and defending it. First of all, what kind of macronutrients you need and how much, may depend on yours and your ancestors habitat. Paul Chek claims this, and says some are protein types, some are carb types. We all know some people who are more tolerable to carbohydrates. Second of all, all these values depends on 'some' research (which I am sure almost none of us read them thoroughly), and 'some' baseline 'requirements'. People claimed cholesterol was bad, some still do, and now they say no no, it is ok and good. People sad yolk is bad, now they say it is good. You get my point. This product is based on the 'realities' of today, but it is shown as a 'great' replacement, where I think 'any' replacement is not and cannot be as good as the original. I really believe Soylent may be a key to solve hunger in some very poor countries, but right now it is just being marketed as a supplement/replacement. I also did not like the marketing approach, such as >>"Soylent 2.0 frees customers from crowded lunch lines at fast food restaurants and ends feelings of mid-morning hunger after inadequate breakfasts". So this is an alternative to a fast-food, as I see it. No offense, but I would rather see true information about nutrition and eating, than a replacement for the wrongs we do. Just my 2 cents.
- SpikeDad 11y agoAnyone who "pre-orders" from Soylent is a bozo. They say September and if their initial launch is any indication that will quickly become 1Q 2016 and then Mid 2016.
- jimrandomh 11y agoPremixed Soylent makes a lot of sense. Ideally, I'd like to see them enter the convenience store market; highway rest stops, for example, are a place where it's very hard to get something nutritionally trustworthy, so in that context I'd choose Soylent every time, and would pay a premium for it. In the meantime, I hope they keep the powder around for awhile. I find it very useful to pack a few bags while travelling to patch over logistics problems, and premixed soylent can't do that because it's too heavy to take in your luggage.