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What makes you think the book is ready? We've been told (KS backers) that the book isn't shipping until October 2015. There is absolutely nothing that you've

by gregd 11y ago

What makes you think the book is ready? We've been told (KS backers) that the book isn't shipping until October 2015. There is absolutely nothing that you've linked to to indicate that it's ready. Incidentally the book costs less at retail, then even the lowest tier of it's Kickstarter campaign.

sleepychu 11y ago
It's always really disappointing for me when people see Kickstarting as a way of purchasing the end product. With economies of scale you should really expect prices to come down for retail. What you're getting for the money with a kickstarter campaign is the chance to help someone realise their product, which hopefully you believe in, without the creative inhibitions that come with strings-attached funding.
- gregd 11y ago
  You must be disappointed a lot then? I did believe in her product. What I didn't believe in was an utter lack of regard to KS backers, poor communication, misdirections, a publishing contract with Macmillan, a late delivery (while being less than truthful with KS about it). The author bears some responsibility for changing my mind from believing in her product (what you call helping, "someone realise their product") to simply just wanting the end result of what I paid for at a higher cost than retail.
  - sleepychu 11y ago
    I guess my point was two-fold. 1) The end product will probably be cheaper than the kickstarter backing. (You seem to agree with this, at least in general) 2) People shouldn't see backing a product as a purchase. There's clearly risk involved in any transaction where the obligation of the seller to provide anything, let alone meet your expectation of exactly how the end product will be realised. It's sucky that you've had such a bad time with this KS though, the real value in backing ought to be the opposite of what you've experienced!
yorak 11y ago
I just purhcased the finnish version of the book and the status says it is shipped. Perhaps I should have waited until it is in my hands? :)
caseyf7 11y ago
As another backer, I totally agree. This was one of the worst Kickstarter experiences of many mediocre to bad experiences. Projects like this are killing Kickstarter for me.

by gregd 11y ago

sleepychu 11y ago

It's always really disappointing for me when people see Kickstarting as a way of purchasing the end product. With economies of scale you should really expect prices to come down for retail. What you're getting for the money with a kickstarter campaign is the chance to help someone realise their product, which hopefully you believe in, without the creative inhibitions that come with strings-attached funding.

gregd 11y ago
You must be disappointed a lot then? I did believe in her product. What I didn't believe in was an utter lack of regard to KS backers, poor communication, misdirections, a publishing contract with Macmillan, a late delivery (while being less than truthful with KS about it). The author bears some responsibility for changing my mind from believing in her product (what you call helping, "someone realise their product") to simply just wanting the end result of what I paid for at a higher cost than retail.
- sleepychu 11y ago
  I guess my point was two-fold. 1) The end product will probably be cheaper than the kickstarter backing. (You seem to agree with this, at least in general) 2) People shouldn't see backing a product as a purchase. There's clearly risk involved in any transaction where the obligation of the seller to provide anything, let alone meet your expectation of exactly how the end product will be realised. It's sucky that you've had such a bad time with this KS though, the real value in backing ought to be the opposite of what you've experienced!

yorak 11y ago

I just purhcased the finnish version of the book and the status says it is shipped. Perhaps I should have waited until it is in my hands? :)

caseyf7 11y ago

As another backer, I totally agree. This was one of the worst Kickstarter experiences of many mediocre to bad experiences. Projects like this are killing Kickstarter for me.