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Sheesh, this guy has been in the industry longer than most at age 72 and it shocked me when I read, "a handful of young men are eagerly banging away on keyboard

Sheesh, this guy has been in the industry longer than most at age 72 and it shocked me when I read, "a handful of young men are eagerly banging away on keyboards late on a Saturday afternoon" - then to top it all off further into the article he says, "How many companies have you started by the time you're 18? If the answer's zero, I wouldn't invest in you," he says of their entrepreneurial verve (after explaining pretty much everything he did post-Atari was a mistake). Crunch does not make for efficiency. Look at EA if you want to see what crunch does (besides make your employees and families miserable). Sounds like Bushnell has made a lot of mistakes in his time and his latest startup and the way it is being run is another example of a man who clearly has lost touch with the industry he help kickstart back in the 70's.

michaelkeenan 11y ago
> it shocked me when I read, "a handful of young men are eagerly banging away on keyboards late on a Saturday afternoon" It's not so unreasonable to work on a Saturday afternoon. As PG says, "If you’re ever unsure if you should be doing what you’re doing during YC, ask yourself this question: ‘Am I building our product? Am I talking to users? Am I exercising?’. if you’re not doing one of these things, you’re doing the wrong thing." > Crunch does not make for efficiency. Look at EA if you want to see what crunch does I don't know much about EA but their stock value seems okay: https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chfdeh=0&chdet=1438113600000&chddm=2568780&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NASDAQ:EA&ntsp=0&ei=FhO_VbDaMLH2iQLPy6D4Aw https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&... (Though if the recent rise is due to changed policies around crunchtime, that would be really interesting and I'd love to learn about that.)
- superuser2 11y ago
  These young men were employees, not owners.
- pjc50 11y ago
  Stock value seems okay Stock value being, of course, the only moral determinant here. Even if you're using employees as a consumable, ea_spouse passim.

michaelkeenan 11y ago

> it shocked me when I read, "a handful of young men are eagerly banging away on keyboards late on a Saturday afternoon" It's not so unreasonable to work on a Saturday afternoon. As PG says, "If you’re ever unsure if you should be doing what you’re doing during YC, ask yourself this question: ‘Am I building our product? Am I talking to users? Am I exercising?’. if you’re not doing one of these things, you’re doing the wrong thing." > Crunch does not make for efficiency. Look at EA if you want to see what crunch does I don't know much about EA but their stock value seems okay: https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chfdeh=0&chdet=1438113600000&chddm=2568780&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NASDAQ:EA&ntsp=0&ei=FhO_VbDaMLH2iQLPy6D4Aw https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&... (Though if the recent rise is due to changed policies around crunchtime, that would be really interesting and I'd love to learn about that.)

superuser2 11y ago
These young men were employees, not owners.
pjc50 11y ago
Stock value seems okay Stock value being, of course, the only moral determinant here. Even if you're using employees as a consumable, ea_spouse passim.