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How is this a private cloud if it's running on AWS which is most certainly a public cloud? I don't mean to take away from the product but I find the messaging t

How is this a private cloud if it's running on AWS which is most certainly a public cloud? I don't mean to take away from the product but I find the messaging to be odd.

doomspork 11y ago
The title was changed. It previously said something along the lines of "Launch a private Heroku"
hibikir 11y ago
My guess is that it's them playing slightly loose with the AWS term VPC: Virtual Private Cloud. My guess is that this is the way most people that have done work with AWS will understand their statement this way.
- mwmanning 11y ago
  You're right. It's technically a virtual private cloud. We've found that nowadays VPC works for most people. The days of on-premises platforms are numbered.
  - rubiquity 11y ago
    Days numbered or not (aside: take a look around Fortune 1000 and you'll see it's alive and well) the term private cloud has a definition. Someone should come up with a term for subnets inside a public cloud.
    - ddollar 11y ago
      Thanks for the interest :) We have been trying to figure out the best way to describe our platform and "private cloud" seems the closest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Private_cloud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Private_cloud
      - rubiquity 11y ago
        Fair enough. Btw, is this what Nitrous became?
        mwmanning 11y ago
        This is a separate venture from Nitrous.
  - devonkim 11y ago
    The fact that Amazon offers Direct Connect shows that on-premises platform growth are certainly numbered but not the mere existence of them. Plenty of companies are still forcibly keeping their data in their own datacenters due to regulatory reasons despite desperately wanting to use third party providers. So until these regulations change (I'd bet it'll happen for PCI-DSS level 2+ before several federal ones unless FedRAMP supersedes them all) the largest possible users for AWS (and sadly, the most likely to benefit from it the most) are likely to be stuck operating stupidly expensive datacenters for pretty much no good reason besides making last-generation tech jobs.
mwmanning 11y ago
hibikir got it right. Privacy comes from VPCs.

How is this a private cloud if it's running on AWS which is most certainly a public cloud? I don't mean to take away from the product but I find the messaging to be odd.

doomspork 11y ago

The title was changed. It previously said something along the lines of "Launch a private Heroku"

hibikir 11y ago

My guess is that it's them playing slightly loose with the AWS term VPC: Virtual Private Cloud. My guess is that this is the way most people that have done work with AWS will understand their statement this way.

mwmanning 11y ago
You're right. It's technically a virtual private cloud. We've found that nowadays VPC works for most people. The days of on-premises platforms are numbered.
- rubiquity 11y ago
  Days numbered or not (aside: take a look around Fortune 1000 and you'll see it's alive and well) the term private cloud has a definition. Someone should come up with a term for subnets inside a public cloud.
  - ddollar 11y ago
    Thanks for the interest :) We have been trying to figure out the best way to describe our platform and "private cloud" seems the closest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Private_cloud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Private_cloud
    - rubiquity 11y ago
      Fair enough. Btw, is this what Nitrous became?
      - mwmanning 11y ago
        This is a separate venture from Nitrous.
- devonkim 11y ago
  The fact that Amazon offers Direct Connect shows that on-premises platform growth are certainly numbered but not the mere existence of them. Plenty of companies are still forcibly keeping their data in their own datacenters due to regulatory reasons despite desperately wanting to use third party providers. So until these regulations change (I'd bet it'll happen for PCI-DSS level 2+ before several federal ones unless FedRAMP supersedes them all) the largest possible users for AWS (and sadly, the most likely to benefit from it the most) are likely to be stuck operating stupidly expensive datacenters for pretty much no good reason besides making last-generation tech jobs.

mwmanning 11y ago

hibikir got it right. Privacy comes from VPCs.