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I like Windows 10 so far, with the exception of all the crap that is hard, messy, nearly impossible or impossible to disable or uninstall. I couldn't care less
by rebootthesystem 11y ago
I like Windows 10 so far, with the exception of all the crap that is hard, messy, nearly impossible or impossible to disable or uninstall.
I couldn't care less about Cortana, Xbox, or the myriad of other consumer junk that comes with it. I don't want any data going anywhere and the only connectivity to the Internet I want to see is through a browser, FTP client or telnet.
As a first exposure to Windows 10 --before considering it for the office-- I purchased two HP laptops for my kids and upgraded both to Windows 10.
At times uninstalling things felt like a game of whack-a-mole. You right click and "Uninstall" on the program list off the start menu and crap seems to come back to life. It took multiple passes to get rid of some items. Yet others required nuking them manually from the Programs directory.
Why can't I uninstall Xbox? I don't get it. The same is true of other features. I don't want anything that requires a login or an account with Microsoft to be available.
It actually didn't help that the laptops we got came with Windows 8.1. We should have cleaned them up first and then upgraded. The HP's came with a bunch of crap-ware already and it was hard to know exactly what belonged to Windows 10 and what was crap-ware that came with the computer. McAfee, of course. It seems like a virus that's everywhere.
Anyhow, not a rant but rather an expression of frustration at Microsoft. I know that the developer community or professional engineering users are grossly overshadowed by "civilian" users. However, it wouldn't have been too hard for them to allow us to very quickly reduce Windows 10 down to a clean and streamlined engineering workstation without all the bullshit, data leaks, crap-ware, etc.
When it comes time to upgrade our various workstations at the office it will have to be a very carefully planned transition with tweaked installation scripts to migrate or rebuild systems to Windows 10 without all the junk we don't want. Most of our systems have two or three monitors. I am eager to learn how well Windows 10 handles that.
The other peeve is this business of upgrades starting with Windows 7 and not Vista. We have a number of systems running Vista. It looks like we are going to have to upgrade to 7 first and then to 10.
Just in case anyone is curious: why Vista? Because when re-installing and re-licensing tens of thousands of dollars of engineering software on a workstation takes a month worth of work you don't upgrade operating systems on a whim. In fact, you almost always build a new machine with the new OS while work continues on the old machine and then transition the engineer onto the new system. Complex hardware, software, FPGA, mechanical design and CAM workstations have piles of software that takes a massive amount of time to install, update and configure. Not to mention OS, hardware and driver dependencies (for example, Solidworks).
Wondering if anyone on HN has used Paragon's tools for migration to new hardware:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-professional/ http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-professional/
- threeseed 11y agoOr instead of getting all panicky you could just do what every enterprise does. Run the various apps e.g XBox, monitor your firewall and simply block the requisite URLs.
- mmarx 11y ago> Run the various apps e.g XBox, monitor your firewall and simply block the requisite URLs. How do you guarantee that you've blocked all the URLs accessed by the application, and that they're not going to change with the next update?
- rebootthesystem 11y agoPanicky? Funny.