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Ask HN: I'm looking for the self-proclaimed “last private web hosting” site

109 points by hellbanner 11y ago

I'm looking for the self-proclaimed "last private web hosting" site, that requires no name. You could send them $1 USD in the mail with a desired account & password & they would set it up for you. I think void was in the title. Anyone know?

spilk 11y ago
Are you talking about https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ ?
- bhickey 11y ago
  NFS requires that you provide a name. They might cut you some slack if you can prove you live in North Korea.
  - deftnerd 11y ago
    They do have an exception though [1] "If you live outside the United States and can demonstrate that the site you wish to host would put you at significant, legitimate risk of retaliation from a government with a documented track record of reprisal against people who speak out against it, we may be able to help. Anonymous hosting is serious business; it can be one component of a coordinated plan to protect you and your family from torture and murder. It's absolutely not an option you can use to dodge lawsuits or unpopularity arising from hosted material. If you feel you need this level of protection, please contact us, taking appropriate privacy precautions with respect to your correspondence. Be sure to explain where you live, what you want to host, and why you feel hosting the material anonymously is the only way to guarantee your safety. Be very specific; you will need to explain your situation in enough detail so we can make an informed decision. We may, in our sole discretion, decide to waive the contact information requirement in exchange for periodic reviews of your site content by NearlyFreeSpeech.NET personnel to verify that your usage of the service is consistent with your claims. Please be aware that even if we approve your request, paying anonymously is extremely difficult. We regret we are not able to provide anonymous hosting to residents of the United States under any circumstances." [1] https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq#Anonymous https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq#Anonymous
mtmail 11y ago
These guys don't store payment details and allow cash-in-the-mail. I used them for a domain name once. http://mediaon.com/About-Us.php#Payment http://mediaon.com/About-Us.php#Payment
cstigler 11y ago
You may be thinking of Silence is Defeat: http://silenceisdefeat.com/ http://silenceisdefeat.com/ "public access unix systems for free speech, established 2000" They offer free shell accounts with 50MB storage space, HTTP access (http://silenceisdefeat.net/~username http://silenceisdefeat.net/~username), SSH access, email, etc. Very cool place.
tedunangst 11y ago
http://www.dhp.com/account.html http://www.dhp.com/account.html
- brandon 11y ago
  Site looks terribly defunct. No announcements since 2012?
  - Ganz7 11y ago
    Looks really sketchy as well.
zimbatm 11y ago
what about https://neocities.org/ https://neocities.org/ ?
lavara 11y ago
Not sure if it's what you're looking for but: http://sdf.org/?join http://sdf.org/?join
- FroshKiller 11y ago
  I've been a member of the SDF for years. If you're interested in Internet 1.0 and "just want some space" so to speak, it's great.
  - deleted 11y ago
    [deleted]
  - lavara 11y ago
    Totally agree.
white-flame 11y ago
Host a .onion or .i2p site. You'll need a 24/7 box somewhere, but it could even be behind a residential NAT with only outbound connections (at reduced performance than having a public port). You can easily & transparently move it from one physical place to another; your hash identifies it, not the physical routing location.
- javajosh 11y ago
  If I wanted to set something up like that, just for fun/experimentation, is there a tutorial on how to go about it?
  - white-flame 11y ago
    I'm more familiar with I2P than Tor. I2P includes a webserver, to host the local configuration & status page. You can also host your own public site right from there, by dropping files in the right place. Click "Website" from your console page and it'll tell you what you need to do. The URL will be <some hash>.i2p, but you can register with one of the name servers to give it a more human-friendly <name>.i2p redirect, similar to DNS->IP address. From quick googling, it doesn't look like Tor includes a webserver, just TCP tunneling that you can set up to talk to an independent local webserver install: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en Note the same is possible in I2P if you want to use your own webserver.
    - javajosh 11y ago
      Well, on first principles, what I would expect to do would be: >brew install tor-server >mkdir mysite && cd mysite >echo "Hello secret friends!" > index.html >tor-server Access your site at http://<hash>.tor
      - white-flame 11y ago
        That is effectively the I2P process.
jsprogrammer 11y ago
Make it a GitHub Page for free.
merah 11y ago
http://voidnull.sdf.org/ http://voidnull.sdf.org/
- sfk 11y ago
  "It appears that the voidnull account has been disabled on Hacker News." I think they ban tor, or new-account tor users (which completely defeats the purpose of using tor in the first place).
  - itaibn 11y ago
    I created my account and log in through Tor and don't experience any problems. I don't think I ever logged in outside of Tor, but I don't consider it to be a security requirement and am not sensitive about it, so it's possible there are exception (in particular it's that I misremember creating the account through Tor).
jenkstom 11y ago
You are probably thinking of this article: http://www.dailydot.com/society/anonymous-website-challenge-voidnull-real-name/ http://www.dailydot.com/society/anonymous-website-challenge-... which links to http://voidnull.sdf.org http://voidnull.sdf.org.
hurin 11y ago
There is a small number of VPS providers that accept Bitcoin (and require no identifying information) - probably this is your best bet.
- username 11y ago
  Here's a list of providers accepting BTC: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/bitcoinvps.html http://cryto.net/~joepie91/bitcoinvps.html
skorlir 11y ago
There's also http://tilde.club http://tilde.club, although they haven't been accepting new registrations for a little while
jbuzbee 11y ago
How about nyx.net? They've been around a long, long, time http://www.nyx.net/ http://www.nyx.net/
kordless 11y ago
I built something that starts instances with Bitcoin, if that helps any: https://www.stackmonkey.com/ https://www.stackmonkey.com/. You add ssh keys with a callback, so the site never sees who you are. The virtual appliances run on my HP Cloud account, so for now your instance would be there. Will be adding container tech to it at some point.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  That's not anonymous with the amount of google cruft on there. At least google will know that you instantiated something there and google is within the US so can be subpoenaed to reveal the details of whoever visited your site. Note how the sdf page linked elsewhere in this thread is completely clean in that respect. They do have some other issues but at least they try to keep third parties out of the loop.
ikeboy 11y ago
There's https://www.anonymousspeech.com https://www.anonymousspeech.com, which I believe was used by the creator of bitcoin to register bitcoin.org
TheElectricAnt 11y ago
http://www.autistici.org/en/index.html http://www.autistici.org/en/index.html
- tubia 11y ago
  This is not what the user requested but it's definitively worth for the attention they put on privacy and activism. The tech collettive is totally autonomous. Here is the Manifesto http://www.autistici.org/en/who/manifesto.html http://www.autistici.org/en/who/manifesto.html
jasonvorhe 11y ago
Everything you mentioned fits to https://uberspace.de https://uberspace.de, except the grand proclamation.
decentrality 11y ago
http://sdf.org/ http://sdf.org/ Apparently, you create a shell, and have this free: USERS (free) 200MB disk quota / 5,000 files divided into 4 areas mutt, pop3, imap, icq, twitter, bsflite (aim), local irc games, mud, lynx, gopher, TOPS-20 http://yourlogin.sdf.org http://yourlogin.sdf.org (over 50 domains to choose from) traceroute, ping, whois, dig and more - after account validation - inbound ssh, ftp and sftp connections elm, pine, alpine, mailx and rmail webmail interface bash, ksh, tcsh, rc and zsh ed, ex, vi, pico, nano and emacs shell, awk and sed based CGI USENET access (read/post), ClariNET access hundreds of shell/network utilities They have 'paid' services also, which you can pay for in cash. http://sdf.org/?join http://sdf.org/?join
deleted 11y ago
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lrvick 11y ago
If you are looking for something along these lines, and fully free, check out http://hashbang.sh http://hashbang.sh
tiatia 11y ago
nearlyfreespeach.net

109 points by hellbanner 11y ago

spilk 11y ago

Are you talking about https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ ?

bhickey 11y ago
NFS requires that you provide a name. They might cut you some slack if you can prove you live in North Korea.
- deftnerd 11y ago
  They do have an exception though [1] "If you live outside the United States and can demonstrate that the site you wish to host would put you at significant, legitimate risk of retaliation from a government with a documented track record of reprisal against people who speak out against it, we may be able to help. Anonymous hosting is serious business; it can be one component of a coordinated plan to protect you and your family from torture and murder. It's absolutely not an option you can use to dodge lawsuits or unpopularity arising from hosted material. If you feel you need this level of protection, please contact us, taking appropriate privacy precautions with respect to your correspondence. Be sure to explain where you live, what you want to host, and why you feel hosting the material anonymously is the only way to guarantee your safety. Be very specific; you will need to explain your situation in enough detail so we can make an informed decision. We may, in our sole discretion, decide to waive the contact information requirement in exchange for periodic reviews of your site content by NearlyFreeSpeech.NET personnel to verify that your usage of the service is consistent with your claims. Please be aware that even if we approve your request, paying anonymously is extremely difficult. We regret we are not able to provide anonymous hosting to residents of the United States under any circumstances." [1] https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq#Anonymous https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq#Anonymous

mtmail 11y ago

These guys don't store payment details and allow cash-in-the-mail. I used them for a domain name once. http://mediaon.com/About-Us.php#Payment http://mediaon.com/About-Us.php#Payment

cstigler 11y ago

You may be thinking of Silence is Defeat: http://silenceisdefeat.com/ http://silenceisdefeat.com/ "public access unix systems for free speech, established 2000" They offer free shell accounts with 50MB storage space, HTTP access (http://silenceisdefeat.net/~username http://silenceisdefeat.net/~username), SSH access, email, etc. Very cool place.

tedunangst 11y ago

http://www.dhp.com/account.html http://www.dhp.com/account.html

brandon 11y ago
Site looks terribly defunct. No announcements since 2012?
- Ganz7 11y ago
  Looks really sketchy as well.

zimbatm 11y ago

what about https://neocities.org/ https://neocities.org/ ?

lavara 11y ago

Not sure if it's what you're looking for but: http://sdf.org/?join http://sdf.org/?join

FroshKiller 11y ago
I've been a member of the SDF for years. If you're interested in Internet 1.0 and "just want some space" so to speak, it's great.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- lavara 11y ago
  Totally agree.

white-flame 11y ago

Host a .onion or .i2p site. You'll need a 24/7 box somewhere, but it could even be behind a residential NAT with only outbound connections (at reduced performance than having a public port). You can easily & transparently move it from one physical place to another; your hash identifies it, not the physical routing location.

javajosh 11y ago
If I wanted to set something up like that, just for fun/experimentation, is there a tutorial on how to go about it?
- white-flame 11y ago
  I'm more familiar with I2P than Tor. I2P includes a webserver, to host the local configuration & status page. You can also host your own public site right from there, by dropping files in the right place. Click "Website" from your console page and it'll tell you what you need to do. The URL will be <some hash>.i2p, but you can register with one of the name servers to give it a more human-friendly <name>.i2p redirect, similar to DNS->IP address. From quick googling, it doesn't look like Tor includes a webserver, just TCP tunneling that you can set up to talk to an independent local webserver install: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en Note the same is possible in I2P if you want to use your own webserver.
  - javajosh 11y ago
    Well, on first principles, what I would expect to do would be: >brew install tor-server >mkdir mysite && cd mysite >echo "Hello secret friends!" > index.html >tor-server Access your site at http://<hash>.tor
    - white-flame 11y ago
      That is effectively the I2P process.

jsprogrammer 11y ago

Make it a GitHub Page for free.

merah 11y ago

http://voidnull.sdf.org/ http://voidnull.sdf.org/

sfk 11y ago
"It appears that the voidnull account has been disabled on Hacker News." I think they ban tor, or new-account tor users (which completely defeats the purpose of using tor in the first place).
- itaibn 11y ago
  I created my account and log in through Tor and don't experience any problems. I don't think I ever logged in outside of Tor, but I don't consider it to be a security requirement and am not sensitive about it, so it's possible there are exception (in particular it's that I misremember creating the account through Tor).

jenkstom 11y ago

You are probably thinking of this article: http://www.dailydot.com/society/anonymous-website-challenge-voidnull-real-name/ http://www.dailydot.com/society/anonymous-website-challenge-... which links to http://voidnull.sdf.org http://voidnull.sdf.org.

hurin 11y ago

There is a small number of VPS providers that accept Bitcoin (and require no identifying information) - probably this is your best bet.

username 11y ago
Here's a list of providers accepting BTC: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/bitcoinvps.html http://cryto.net/~joepie91/bitcoinvps.html

skorlir 11y ago

There's also http://tilde.club http://tilde.club, although they haven't been accepting new registrations for a little while

jbuzbee 11y ago

How about nyx.net? They've been around a long, long, time http://www.nyx.net/ http://www.nyx.net/

kordless 11y ago

I built something that starts instances with Bitcoin, if that helps any: https://www.stackmonkey.com/ https://www.stackmonkey.com/. You add ssh keys with a callback, so the site never sees who you are. The virtual appliances run on my HP Cloud account, so for now your instance would be there. Will be adding container tech to it at some point.

jacquesm 11y ago
That's not anonymous with the amount of google cruft on there. At least google will know that you instantiated something there and google is within the US so can be subpoenaed to reveal the details of whoever visited your site. Note how the sdf page linked elsewhere in this thread is completely clean in that respect. They do have some other issues but at least they try to keep third parties out of the loop.

ikeboy 11y ago

There's https://www.anonymousspeech.com https://www.anonymousspeech.com, which I believe was used by the creator of bitcoin to register bitcoin.org

TheElectricAnt 11y ago

http://www.autistici.org/en/index.html http://www.autistici.org/en/index.html

tubia 11y ago
This is not what the user requested but it's definitively worth for the attention they put on privacy and activism. The tech collettive is totally autonomous. Here is the Manifesto http://www.autistici.org/en/who/manifesto.html http://www.autistici.org/en/who/manifesto.html

jasonvorhe 11y ago

Everything you mentioned fits to https://uberspace.de https://uberspace.de, except the grand proclamation.

decentrality 11y ago

http://sdf.org/ http://sdf.org/ Apparently, you create a shell, and have this free: USERS (free) 200MB disk quota / 5,000 files divided into 4 areas mutt, pop3, imap, icq, twitter, bsflite (aim), local irc games, mud, lynx, gopher, TOPS-20 http://yourlogin.sdf.org http://yourlogin.sdf.org (over 50 domains to choose from) traceroute, ping, whois, dig and more - after account validation - inbound ssh, ftp and sftp connections elm, pine, alpine, mailx and rmail webmail interface bash, ksh, tcsh, rc and zsh ed, ex, vi, pico, nano and emacs shell, awk and sed based CGI USENET access (read/post), ClariNET access hundreds of shell/network utilities They have 'paid' services also, which you can pay for in cash. http://sdf.org/?join http://sdf.org/?join

deleted 11y ago

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lrvick 11y ago

If you are looking for something along these lines, and fully free, check out http://hashbang.sh http://hashbang.sh

tiatia 11y ago

nearlyfreespeach.net