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Still strange when a country actively rejects a stretch of land.

Tuna-Fish 11y ago
Accepting it would mean legitimizing the border treaty that costs them the larger stretch of land. Stranger things have happened.
- trentmb 11y ago
  Could I murder someone there, and no nation/state 'could' prosecute me? Not an actual plan, mind you, just curious if there's some form of international law that ultimately covers these places.
  - EC1 11y ago
    I'm also interested in this.
    - grkvlt 11y ago
      Me too. Asking for a friend.
  - sahaj 11y ago
    Depends on who you kill.
  - DasIch 11y ago
    Countries tend to claim jurisdiction whenever a citizen is killed, no matter where it happens.
  - rtpg 11y ago
    http://www.quora.com/If-someone-commits-murder-at-sea-in-international-waters-could-they-be-prosecuted-for-the-crime http://www.quora.com/If-someone-commits-murder-at-sea-in-int... That is a related question about international waters (which has a similar sort of situation). the TL;DR is the US could go for it. My impression is that no country really puts jurisdiction into its laws except in certain explicit cases (like tax law). So if it's illegal to kill someone, I don't think any country will be like "well you did it outside of here so we're cool with it." Usually extradition is more linked to the fact that if you kill someone in Tokyo, chances are Japan has more detectives in place to prosecute you "fairly" (since they have all the evidence in place) than the US would, for example. IANAL, but I think jurisdiction is more of a term for the executive branch, like the police, than for the court system. Though it will come to place in things like standing
  - EliRivers 11y ago
    Some truly awful crimes go on at sea and the criminal simply walks away. If you can arrange to do it there, you could try your luck. In theory, at the very least, the flag state of the vessel should do something about it. In practice, if you pick the right flag state, the right ship, you could get away with it. Some very suspicious deaths go essentially unnoticed on merchant ships, and I know a security chief on a cruise ship who has arrested people for serious sexual assault and the flag state just doesn't care and/or just doesn't have the capability to investigate; they get put ashore at the next port and walk away scot-free. It happens, regularly enough that it's not an unusual thing.
    - dghughes 11y ago
      >and the criminal simply walks away.. I think 'sails away' would be more apt.

Accepting it would mean legitimizing the border treaty that costs them the larger stretch of land. Stranger things have happened.

trentmb 11y ago
Could I murder someone there, and no nation/state 'could' prosecute me? Not an actual plan, mind you, just curious if there's some form of international law that ultimately covers these places.
- EC1 11y ago
  I'm also interested in this.
  - grkvlt 11y ago
    Me too. Asking for a friend.
- sahaj 11y ago
  Depends on who you kill.
- DasIch 11y ago
  Countries tend to claim jurisdiction whenever a citizen is killed, no matter where it happens.
- rtpg 11y ago
  http://www.quora.com/If-someone-commits-murder-at-sea-in-international-waters-could-they-be-prosecuted-for-the-crime http://www.quora.com/If-someone-commits-murder-at-sea-in-int... That is a related question about international waters (which has a similar sort of situation). the TL;DR is the US could go for it. My impression is that no country really puts jurisdiction into its laws except in certain explicit cases (like tax law). So if it's illegal to kill someone, I don't think any country will be like "well you did it outside of here so we're cool with it." Usually extradition is more linked to the fact that if you kill someone in Tokyo, chances are Japan has more detectives in place to prosecute you "fairly" (since they have all the evidence in place) than the US would, for example. IANAL, but I think jurisdiction is more of a term for the executive branch, like the police, than for the court system. Though it will come to place in things like standing
- EliRivers 11y ago
  Some truly awful crimes go on at sea and the criminal simply walks away. If you can arrange to do it there, you could try your luck. In theory, at the very least, the flag state of the vessel should do something about it. In practice, if you pick the right flag state, the right ship, you could get away with it. Some very suspicious deaths go essentially unnoticed on merchant ships, and I know a security chief on a cruise ship who has arrested people for serious sexual assault and the flag state just doesn't care and/or just doesn't have the capability to investigate; they get put ashore at the next port and walk away scot-free. It happens, regularly enough that it's not an unusual thing.
  - dghughes 11y ago
    >and the criminal simply walks away.. I think 'sails away' would be more apt.