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Well I agree that patriarcal culture (of which veils and minarets are symbols) has nothing to do in central/northern europe. I don't care about freedom of relig
by cjsthompson 11y ago
Well I agree that patriarcal culture (of which veils and minarets are symbols) has nothing to do in central/northern europe. I don't care about freedom of religion, I care about being freed from religion. And it sounds like the swiss do too. So if that was suposed to make me think that democracy as opposed to parliamentary regimes is a bad thing, think again.
- davidgay 11y agoSorry, but the people opposed to the veils and the minarets are not opposed to them because they represent patriarcal culture, they're opposed to them because they're foreign. In fact, patriarcal is more likely a good adjective to describe the anti-foreigner areas. For instance, one of the highest votes for a recent anti-immigration referendum[1] was in Appenzell Innerrhoden. That same (half)-canton only gave women the vote in 1990, and only because they were forced to by the Swiss Federal Court [2]. [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_populaire_«_Contre_l%27immigration_de_masse_» https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_populaire_«_Contre_... (in French, but look for AI under "Par canton") [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerl...
- hansjorg 11y ago> that patriarcal culture Funny. Do you know anything at all about Switzerland? (hint: it's a very patriarchal society)
- cjsthompson 11y agoDo you know anything at all about Europe? (hint: Europe — particularly the germanic part — is far less patriarchal than north africa and the middle east).
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