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No, actually it's the only place that's somewhat democratic.
by cjsthompson 11y ago
No, actually it's the only place that's somewhat democratic.
- low_battery 11y agoMake an image search for "swiss political billboards"
- cjsthompson 11y agoAnd what do you expect I should learn from this?
- low_battery 11y agoNothing contradicting with your statement, Just gave some example of bullshit their cute democracy produces.
- cjsthompson 11y agoYou completely misunderstood my statement because you have no idea what democracy is.
- low_battery 11y agoNo I know exactly what democracy is, and told you that I did not contradict your statement. Also, obviously, you never lived in Switzerland. Chill.
- cjsthompson 11y agoBecause you think that if I lived in Switzerland (I live just next to it actually) I'd obviously have the same ideological orientation as you?
- hectormalot 11y agoFor one, you might find the bill boards from the SVP, that shows minarets (the tall part of a mosque) depicted as rockets, or the one where they show white sheep kicking a black sheep out of Switzerland. I think it is a good example of how 'direct' Switzerland can be if you are a foreigner there. (I still love the country though)
- cjsthompson 11y agoWell I agree that patriarcal culture (of which veils and minarets are symbols) has nothing to do in central/northern europe. I don't care about freedom of religion, I care about being freed from religion. And it sounds like the swiss do too. So if that was suposed to make me think that democracy as opposed to parliamentary regimes is a bad thing, think again.
- davidgay 11y agoSorry, but the people opposed to the veils and the minarets are not opposed to them because they represent patriarcal culture, they're opposed to them because they're foreign. In fact, patriarcal is more likely a good adjective to describe the anti-foreigner areas. For instance, one of the highest votes for a recent anti-immigration referendum[1] was in Appenzell Innerrhoden. That same (half)-canton only gave women the vote in 1990, and only because they were forced to by the Swiss Federal Court [2]. [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_populaire_«_Contre_l%27immigration_de_masse_» https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_populaire_«_Contre_... (in French, but look for AI under "Par canton") [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerl...
- hansjorg 11y ago> that patriarcal culture Funny. Do you know anything at all about Switzerland? (hint: it's a very patriarchal society)
- cjsthompson 11y agoDo you know anything at all about Europe? (hint: Europe — particularly the germanic part — is far less patriarchal than north africa and the middle east).