...It's the answer of a guy who is familiar with the hairy reality of engineering systems because he has years of engineering experience and wrestles with those

...It's the answer of a guy who is familiar with the hairy reality of engineering systems because he has years of engineering experience and wrestles with those systems every day. A few days ago someone was talking about John Gall and his classic work, "Systemantics". The principles described there closely relate to what I'm talking about. 1) Everything is a system. 2) Everything is part of a larger system (ex. the military industrial complex) 3) All systems are infinitely complex. The F-35 is an infinitely complex system of systems operating in a system of systems (the MIC) that, to pull an analogy from Cantor, is a higher order of infinite complexity. I didn't elaborate enough on that original point for you. You could have asked me for clarification and I would have been happy to try, as I have done here (look at my interactions with nickpsecurity -- I don't think I'm such a bad guy as you are portraying).