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Gates provides an odd answer, and somewhat shifting blame. He's essentially saying he would have preferred a single "Reboot" key on the keyboard, then would ha

by magoon 11y ago

Gates provides an odd answer, and somewhat shifting blame. He's essentially saying he would have preferred a single "Reboot" key on the keyboard, then would have used that to begin the login sequence?

ajross 11y ago
Yes, a single hardware SAK would have been much preferable. Given Microsoft's predilection for adding buttons for all other sorts of things in the 90's, I don't understand why this never happened.
- JadeNB 11y ago
  What is a 'SAK'? (EDIT: Oh, michaelt (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987050 )'s link points out that it is a 'secure attention key'.) > Given Microsoft's predilection for adding buttons for all other sorts of things in the 90's, I don't understand why this never happened. Probably because those other buttons were 'just' meant to add functionality, so that users without them would just get a less-assisted-but-still-functional environment; whereas requiring a special key on a keyboard just to log in would have left legacy users unable to do so, a situation which (they and therefore) Microsoft would surely find untenable.
michaelt 11y ago
XP and similar OSes could be configured so you had to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del before you could log on. It's called a 'secure attention sequence' [1] and the idea is it makes sure the user only enters their password into the login box - not a fake login box on a full screen website or something like that. Fairly easy for a joker in a school computer lab to do that. At least one computer has been released with a dedicated secure attention button - the NEC Versa LitePad was a ~2003 tablet running Windows XP. It had no physical keyboard, relying instead on handwriting recognition or an on screen keyboard, but it had a dedicated button with a picture of a key on to begin the login sequence. It's the middle button at the top in [2]. (if you're wondering, the other buttons were rotate screen, escape, Fn, up/down, power on/off and wireless on/off) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key [2] http://digichar.com/imgs/a/b/i/w/q/nec_versa_litepad_vl___pad___933_windows_xp_tablet_10___4__display_1_lgw.jpg http://digichar.com/imgs/a/b/i/w/q/nec_versa_litepad_vl___pa...

by magoon 11y ago

ajross 11y ago

Yes, a single hardware SAK would have been much preferable. Given Microsoft's predilection for adding buttons for all other sorts of things in the 90's, I don't understand why this never happened.

JadeNB 11y ago
What is a 'SAK'? (EDIT: Oh, michaelt (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987050 )'s link points out that it is a 'secure attention key'.) > Given Microsoft's predilection for adding buttons for all other sorts of things in the 90's, I don't understand why this never happened. Probably because those other buttons were 'just' meant to add functionality, so that users without them would just get a less-assisted-but-still-functional environment; whereas requiring a special key on a keyboard just to log in would have left legacy users unable to do so, a situation which (they and therefore) Microsoft would surely find untenable.

michaelt 11y ago

XP and similar OSes could be configured so you had to enter Ctrl+Alt+Del before you could log on. It's called a 'secure attention sequence' [1] and the idea is it makes sure the user only enters their password into the login box - not a fake login box on a full screen website or something like that. Fairly easy for a joker in a school computer lab to do that. At least one computer has been released with a dedicated secure attention button - the NEC Versa LitePad was a ~2003 tablet running Windows XP. It had no physical keyboard, relying instead on handwriting recognition or an on screen keyboard, but it had a dedicated button with a picture of a key on to begin the login sequence. It's the middle button at the top in [2]. (if you're wondering, the other buttons were rotate screen, escape, Fn, up/down, power on/off and wireless on/off) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_attention_key [2] http://digichar.com/imgs/a/b/i/w/q/nec_versa_litepad_vl___pad___933_windows_xp_tablet_10___4__display_1_lgw.jpg http://digichar.com/imgs/a/b/i/w/q/nec_versa_litepad_vl___pa...