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> I’m the PhD who wrote the original article. I’m delighted a high school student worked so hard and wrote so well. He's certainly not doing himself any favors
by ectoplasm 11y ago
> I’m the PhD who wrote the original article. I’m delighted a high school student worked so hard and wrote so well.
He's certainly not doing himself any favors with this condescending appeal to authority. In general, the exchange between Jensen and Fried is a perfect example of how to handle a nasty person with grace.
- mng2 11y agoYeah, yikes. Jensen is really piling it higher and deeper.
- raverbashing 11y agoWhy am I not surprised? I wouldn't put it past the fact that the high schooler probably knows how to google better than the "phd" "Jensen attracted a lot of attention because he did not just write that the NINA signs did not exist, he said the Irish were and are delusional, that in order to sustain a sense of victimhood they had manufactured a group-wide lie of discriminatory anti-Irish ads and signs" Oh wow, lovely lad Another edit: "Wanted - A Middle Aged protestant woman... no Irish need apply" I think it would be hard to find an Irish Protestant at that time, no?
- zumtar 11y ago> I think it would be hard to find an Irish Protestant at that time, no? Belfast (and the whole of Ulster) was full of them.
- raverbashing 11y agoI know that, I'm more wondering what was the amount that immigrated to the US (in relation to Catholic Irish)
- zumtar 11y agoI don't have exact numbers to hand but I am sure the numbers of Protestant Irish emigrants was very high. Poverty throughout the counties was common and they wanted to find a new and better life just as much as their Roman Catholic neighbours did.
- azernik 11y agoMany (including at least two Presidents). They just tended not to identify themselves as plain "Irish". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American
- umanwizard 11y agoDid they really consider themselves "Irish", though?
- zumtar 11y agoYes, of course they did. They were Irish, but the unionists agreed (along with Great Britain) that Ireland should be ruled by the King and be under British rule, and subsequently they all adopt the "British" sect of Christianity (Anglicanism).
- dmoo 11y agoFor some details and background, Emigration Across the Atlantic: Irish, Italians and Swedes compared, 1800–1950 http://ieg-ego.eu/en/threads/europe-on-the-road/economic-migration/irial-glynn-emigration-across-the-atlantic-irish-italians-and-swedes-compared-1800-1950#Whomigrated http://ieg-ego.eu/en/threads/europe-on-the-road/economic-mig...
- nailer 11y ago> Yes, of course they did. Protestants in what is now Northern Ireland could consider themselves eg, 'Ulster Scots' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Scots_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Scots_people
- talideon 11y agoUlster Scots is a different thing than was they're referring to. Ulster Scots refers to (largely) Presbyterian descendants of Scottish planters who emigrated to the US. Adherents to the Anglican communion wouldn't necessarily consider themselves 'Ulster Scots'.
- nailer 11y agoThere are many Ulster Scots who are Scots in Ulster and haven't migrated to the U.S. See the references in the wikipedia link.
- vacri 11y agoI was told a while back by a native that 10% of the south was Protestant, though he was talking of the modern day. I don't know how that number would translate historically.
- tankenmate 11y agoAnd indeed you'll find that Irish protestants in general tended to immigrate to the southern US states and the Catholics were more likely to immigrate to the northern US states (such as they existed at the time). Even till today you'll find a higher ratio of Protestant Irish to Catholic Irish in Georgia than Massachusetts for example.
- swang 11y agohe apparently is the real life incarnate of "tl;dr"
- pygy_ 11y agoHer replies display an impressive amount of maturity, and her style is perfect. She'll go places.