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> The Obama administration has determined that it must retaliate against China for the theft of the personal information of more than 20 million Americans from
by sillygeese 11y ago
> The Obama administration has determined that it must retaliate against China for the theft of the personal information of more than 20 million Americans from the databases of the Office of Personnel Management
Someone tell me what use China has for "personal information" of Americans from the Office of Personnel Management.
Seriously. What do the records contain and what is it to China? Wouldn't China be more interested in the "personal information" of their own peons?
> But in a series of classified meetings, officials have struggled to choose among options that range from largely symbolic responses — for example, diplomatic protests or the ouster of known Chinese agents in the United States
So how classified were the meetings if you know what they talked about?
> In public, Mr. Obama has said almost nothing, and officials are under strict instructions to avoid naming China as the source of the attack.
.. But it's alright for the New York Times to declare to the world that China is being naughty?
> unless the United States finds a way to respond to the attacks, they are bound to escalate
Yeah, pretty soon the Chinese government will be hacking PayPal for Americans' credit card numbers! You know, for extra revenue and all.
> In the Sony attack, the theft of emails was secondary to the destruction of much of the company’s computer systems, part of an effort to intimidate the studio to keep it from releasing a comedy that portrayed the assassination of Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader.
Why the hell would the Chinese government give a flying fuck about a comedy about Kim Kong-Un? Let alone to the extent of "destroying Sony's computer systems", whatever that's supposed to mean? How do you destroy computers by hacking them remotely?
> The Justice Department is exploring legal action against Chinese individuals and organizations believed responsible for the personnel office theft
So assuming these people were working for the Chinese government, the US would have to extradite/kidnap them from China to get them convicted. How's that for "escalation"?
If kidnapping isn't in the plans, why would they "explore" legal action, knowing it would be a waste of time? Why would they publicize their plans for legal action? Do they just want to make themselves look stupid?
In reality, this article is just Cold War 2.0 propaganda. Who knows if any hacking even happened? It makes no sense for China to hack Sony over a movie, so why wouldn't this be bullshit too?
Russia and China are Bad, mmm'kay?
- kinghajj 11y ago> Someone tell me what use China has for "personal information" of Americans from the Office of Personnel Management. > Seriously. What do the records contain and what is it to China? Wouldn't China be more interested in the "personal information" of their own peons? From what I've read, these files can potentially contain very sensitive information. As part of the background check for some government positions, many dark secrets are unearthed and documented. Why? So that the government has a heads-up on how its employees may be compromised by foreign adversaries. So if the Chinese had such files on 20 million people, they would have a treasure trove of information to use as leverage against US citizens. > Why the hell would the Chinese government give a flying fuck about a comedy about Kim Kong-Un? They don't, and the article never implies that they did. "Admiral Rogers made clear in a public presentation to the meeting of the Aspen Security Forum last week that he had advised President Obama to strike back against North Korea for the earlier attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment. Since then, evidence that hackers associated with the Chinese government were responsible for the Office of Personnel Management theft has been gathered by personnel under Admiral Rogers’s command, officials said." The DPRK is associated with the Sony hack, and PRC with the OPM one. > So assuming these people were working for the Chinese government, the US would have to extradite/kidnap them from China to get them convicted. How's that for "escalation"? "Legal action" could be sanctions, warrants, etc. Why do you jump to kidnapping so suddenly? (Not that I would put it past this government...) > In reality, this article is just Cold War 2.0 propaganda. Of course, it's in the NYT!
- chowyuncat 11y agoNorth Korea is not a rational actor. What reason do you think Sony is lying about being hacked?