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Speaking as someone who approves of the legal reality that abortion is a woman's right, I'm fine with pro-choice/pro-life. I don't think the aborted material c

by Frondo 11y ago

Speaking as someone who approves of the legal reality that abortion is a woman's right, I'm fine with pro-choice/pro-life. I don't think the aborted material constitutes a life, and the anti-abortionists' view that it does just makes me roll my eyes at their attempts to change that very common view with word games.

mistermann 11y ago
If you do nothing and let nature take it's course, in the majority of cases this material will proceed to be born as a human. If someone intervenes via abortion, that most likely outcome of a person being born will not happen. The willfully chosen action of an individual prevents a child from being born, whereas if they did nothing, the child would be born. I can see how word games might make you roll your eyes, but does the above line of thinking also make you roll your eyes? I'm not suggesting we outlaw abortion, but I don't think it's that much to ask that people be honest about precisely what is happening. There are word games being played on both sides of this disagreement.
- Frondo 11y ago
  There's lots of man-made things that stop nature from "taking its course," like condoms or planning around a woman's menstrual cycle. An abortion is just another of those man-made things that stops nature from "taking its course". Aaand, it's been going on as long as people have been people. We've been controlling pregnancy as a species for millennia. Abortion, in the medical, clinical sense, is just a safe, reliable, and legal way to do so, that also happily gives a woman body autonomy (a good place for us to get to, after so much of our history telling women their bodies aren't theirs). Hey, maybe you don't like any of those, and sex should be purely procreative in its goals. Some people do feel that way, maybe you're one of them.
  - mistermann 11y ago
    Now who's playing word games?

by Frondo 11y ago

mistermann 11y ago

If you do nothing and let nature take it's course, in the majority of cases this material will proceed to be born as a human. If someone intervenes via abortion, that most likely outcome of a person being born will not happen. The willfully chosen action of an individual prevents a child from being born, whereas if they did nothing, the child would be born. I can see how word games might make you roll your eyes, but does the above line of thinking also make you roll your eyes? I'm not suggesting we outlaw abortion, but I don't think it's that much to ask that people be honest about precisely what is happening. There are word games being played on both sides of this disagreement.

Frondo 11y ago
There's lots of man-made things that stop nature from "taking its course," like condoms or planning around a woman's menstrual cycle. An abortion is just another of those man-made things that stops nature from "taking its course". Aaand, it's been going on as long as people have been people. We've been controlling pregnancy as a species for millennia. Abortion, in the medical, clinical sense, is just a safe, reliable, and legal way to do so, that also happily gives a woman body autonomy (a good place for us to get to, after so much of our history telling women their bodies aren't theirs). Hey, maybe you don't like any of those, and sex should be purely procreative in its goals. Some people do feel that way, maybe you're one of them.
- mistermann 11y ago
  Now who's playing word games?