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Not everyone goes against abortion because of the religion. There is more in to it, like cultural drop of values, increased risk of sexual transmitted viruses,

by funkyy 11y ago

Not everyone goes against abortion because of the religion. There is more in to it, like cultural drop of values, increased risk of sexual transmitted viruses, drop in family values.

__david__ 11y ago
From what I've seen, almost all people talking about values are pretty religious. I'm not sure I've ever seen someone irreligious talk about cultural values at all. So I'd argue that even though an anti-abortion attitude may not be directly religious, it almost always seems to stem from religion. This, of course, could be related to where I live. I do wonder though: what specific cultural values does abortion cause a drop in?
- mistermann 11y ago
  I'm an atheist and while not fully in the pro-life camp, I'm certainly not a full-fledged advocate of pro-choice.
- Abraln 11y ago
  The main one I have heard is empathy, but also a drop in selflessness (as in valuing your own discomfort over the potential life inside of you), and commitment (I have heard it linked multiple times to be increase in divorce rates, aka commitments are not treated seriously.) I'm not saying I agree with any or all of these, just I've heard them.
amake 11y ago
Oh please. Define "(family) values" and what would constitute a "drop" in them. Even if you are able to do so, you are mistaken 1. that people currently share your so-called values, and 2. that you have any business identifying or imposing desirable values. Keep your "values" to yourself, please. (I didn't even touch on "increased risk of sexual transmitted viruses [sic]"; by the time abortion comes into play, STIs are a done deal, so what in the world are you talking about?)
- dang 11y ago
  > Oh please [...] Keep your "values" to yourself, please [...] what in the world are you talking about? Please don't be personally abrasive in HN comments. It degrades the discourse, whether your argument is right or not.

by funkyy 11y ago

Not everyone goes against abortion because of the religion. There is more in to it, like cultural drop of values, increased risk of sexual transmitted viruses, drop in family values.

__david__ 11y ago

From what I've seen, almost all people talking about values are pretty religious. I'm not sure I've ever seen someone irreligious talk about cultural values at all. So I'd argue that even though an anti-abortion attitude may not be directly religious, it almost always seems to stem from religion. This, of course, could be related to where I live. I do wonder though: what specific cultural values does abortion cause a drop in?

mistermann 11y ago
I'm an atheist and while not fully in the pro-life camp, I'm certainly not a full-fledged advocate of pro-choice.
Abraln 11y ago
The main one I have heard is empathy, but also a drop in selflessness (as in valuing your own discomfort over the potential life inside of you), and commitment (I have heard it linked multiple times to be increase in divorce rates, aka commitments are not treated seriously.) I'm not saying I agree with any or all of these, just I've heard them.

amake 11y ago

Oh please. Define "(family) values" and what would constitute a "drop" in them. Even if you are able to do so, you are mistaken 1. that people currently share your so-called values, and 2. that you have any business identifying or imposing desirable values. Keep your "values" to yourself, please. (I didn't even touch on "increased risk of sexual transmitted viruses [sic]"; by the time abortion comes into play, STIs are a done deal, so what in the world are you talking about?)

dang 11y ago
> Oh please [...] Keep your "values" to yourself, please [...] what in the world are you talking about? Please don't be personally abrasive in HN comments. It degrades the discourse, whether your argument is right or not.