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"I did more research, though I'm still confused if I would be encouraged to be given priority or not? Not renumbering to show that I checked after writing every

"I did more research, though I'm still confused if I would be encouraged to be given priority or not? Not renumbering to show that I checked after writing everything else out." A quick google suggests that DjangoGirls is explicitly open to all women and also non-binary individuals, and at least one major player is connected with Trans*Code. "Monospace white-on-black command-line aesthetic is a stylistic choice. It’s one that is relatively unmarked in our community. Glittery pastels is a different aesthetic. They are both perfectly valid ways to invite someone to be a programmer. And they will appeal to different audiences." And this comment of yours: "I'm sure it's, on a technical level, a great book. But it comes off as "this is girly, made by girls, and it's meant for girls" is sort of the entire point of the original blog. So what if it's laid out in a manner that's coded as "feminine" by this society? What's wrong with that?

Nadya 11y ago
As for your quote - monospace white-on-black command-line is not a gendered aesthetic (although it's a stereotype aesthetic? The "typical computer geek" from TV shows I guess?). Glittery pastels are a gendered aesthetic. >And they will appeal to different audiences." So would having a sports bar and female strippers. I'm not denying that glittery pastels are going to attract a more feminine girly-girl audience. I'm arguing that not all girls are girly-girl types and many are tomboys and would feel completely out of place in a place that tries to yell "Disney Princesses" at the top of its lungs. > So what if it's laid out in a manner that's coded as "feminine" by this society? What's wrong with that? Not all girls are feminine and will feel out of place and unwelcomed in such an environment. We can start there. Which is the point I feel Joe was trying to get across and is definitely the point I was trying to get across. >A quick google suggests that DjangoGirls is explicitly open to all women and also non-binary individuals, and at least one major player is connected with TransCode.* This does not answer my question about "priority to female individuals". I had already answered myself about being welcomed or not. But when priority is given to females, do transexuals count as female in this regard? Because in many places we don't - especially pre-op.

Nadya 11y ago

As for your quote - monospace white-on-black command-line is not a gendered aesthetic (although it's a stereotype aesthetic? The "typical computer geek" from TV shows I guess?). Glittery pastels are a gendered aesthetic. >And they will appeal to different audiences." So would having a sports bar and female strippers. I'm not denying that glittery pastels are going to attract a more feminine girly-girl audience. I'm arguing that not all girls are girly-girl types and many are tomboys and would feel completely out of place in a place that tries to yell "Disney Princesses" at the top of its lungs. > So what if it's laid out in a manner that's coded as "feminine" by this society? What's wrong with that? Not all girls are feminine and will feel out of place and unwelcomed in such an environment. We can start there. Which is the point I feel Joe was trying to get across and is definitely the point I was trying to get across. >A quick google suggests that DjangoGirls is explicitly open to all women and also non-binary individuals, and at least one major player is connected with TransCode.* This does not answer my question about "priority to female individuals". I had already answered myself about being welcomed or not. But when priority is given to females, do transexuals count as female in this regard? Because in many places we don't - especially pre-op.