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A lot of negative comments from people here, but I have to ask, have you used Apple Music and has this feature failed you? I didn't have any problems myself (

by SG- 11y ago

A lot of negative comments from people here, but I have to ask, have you used Apple Music and has this feature failed you? I didn't have any problems myself (not a huge collection, but it worked well for 24GB of songs). Some people have mentioned that it can be easy to fool the system and gain free songs, but paying $9/month for Apple Music gives you access to every song either online or offline and you can add them to your library. iTunes Match however is a different thing and they likely have to be almost sure the song you have is the song you should get access to from the iTunes Store.

kentt 11y ago
I agree that people are very ready to point the finger at Apple when there is even a minimal issue. However, the very common use case listed in the article of uploading a live album and getting studio tracks, is more than just a minor annoyance.
- SG- 11y ago
  It is the first time I've heard someone mention they got something completely unexpected, in a followup in the article the author mentions trying it again and being unable to reproduce it.
  - kentt 11y ago
    I hear other people having poor experiences. Here's one: http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-nightmare-and-im-done-with-it/ http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-night...
- threeseed 11y ago
  I have 150GB in iTunes Match a lot of it live or remixes. It definitely does do acoustic fingerprinting since I've never had or continue to have issues with my music being swapped out for something else.
eridius 11y ago
My iTunes library is apparently 95.96GB (for music) and it's been working pretty awesomely. There's the occasional bug with iTunes itself, but Apple Music has been pretty solid. > it can be easy to fool the system and gain free songs I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you have Apple Music, you already have access to the entire catalog, so there's no trickery to gain "free songs", because they're already available. And if you don't have Apple Music, you can't do this either, because iTunes Match exclusively uses acoustic fingerprinting[1] to ensure you can never download a song you didn't already have. [1] For non-purchased content. For purchased content they obviously already know you own it.
- SG- 11y ago
  Yes, I wasn't saying it's a problem to 'fool the system' and get free songs, I was mentioning that it's not a problem because of how it works.
  - randyrand 11y ago
    Plus if they used fingerprinting couldn't you still circumvent that with a youtube downloader or even torrent downloading?
    - eridius 11y ago
      If you do that, then you already have the song, so you're not really getting anything out of Apple that way (besides making it easier to play that song on your other devices).
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archagon 11y ago
I've had metadata nonsense happen even with a set of just 100 songs. Had to correct everything manually in iTunes.
josai 11y ago
> have you used Apple Music and has this feature failed you? Absolutely. I have a number of mix CDs (above and beyond, mainly) where apple music has apparently looked up the songs by title and artist only and replaced all the tracks in a mix CD with single versions of those songs, needless to say not mixed. I also have other songs which simply refuse to sync. The article says: If you subscribe to both iTunes Match and Apple Music, then iTunes matches your songs using digital fingerprinting - but I thought Apple Music included iTunes match. Do I seriously have to sign up for another product as well to get this working? Not very impressed.
- delambo 11y ago
  The best way to organize a mix in iTunes is to create a playlist with all of the songs, make sure the album title is the same for each artist, then select all of the songs and open the Info menu (CMD-I) and mark them as a Compilation. Marking them as a compilation will organize them on the file system together under the "iTunes/.../Music/Compilations/" directory, which hopefully will make migrating off of iTunes in the future an easier thing to do.
rbinv 11y ago
Yes, it has. It replaced live versions with album versions, non-censored (explicit) tracks with censored ones.

by SG- 11y ago

kentt 11y ago

I agree that people are very ready to point the finger at Apple when there is even a minimal issue. However, the very common use case listed in the article of uploading a live album and getting studio tracks, is more than just a minor annoyance.

SG- 11y ago
It is the first time I've heard someone mention they got something completely unexpected, in a followup in the article the author mentions trying it again and being unable to reproduce it.
- kentt 11y ago
  I hear other people having poor experiences. Here's one: http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-nightmare-and-im-done-with-it/ http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-night...
threeseed 11y ago
I have 150GB in iTunes Match a lot of it live or remixes. It definitely does do acoustic fingerprinting since I've never had or continue to have issues with my music being swapped out for something else.

eridius 11y ago

My iTunes library is apparently 95.96GB (for music) and it's been working pretty awesomely. There's the occasional bug with iTunes itself, but Apple Music has been pretty solid. > it can be easy to fool the system and gain free songs I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you have Apple Music, you already have access to the entire catalog, so there's no trickery to gain "free songs", because they're already available. And if you don't have Apple Music, you can't do this either, because iTunes Match exclusively uses acoustic fingerprinting[1] to ensure you can never download a song you didn't already have. [1] For non-purchased content. For purchased content they obviously already know you own it.

SG- 11y ago
Yes, I wasn't saying it's a problem to 'fool the system' and get free songs, I was mentioning that it's not a problem because of how it works.
- randyrand 11y ago
  Plus if they used fingerprinting couldn't you still circumvent that with a youtube downloader or even torrent downloading?
  - eridius 11y ago
    If you do that, then you already have the song, so you're not really getting anything out of Apple that way (besides making it easier to play that song on your other devices).
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archagon 11y ago

I've had metadata nonsense happen even with a set of just 100 songs. Had to correct everything manually in iTunes.

josai 11y ago

> have you used Apple Music and has this feature failed you? Absolutely. I have a number of mix CDs (above and beyond, mainly) where apple music has apparently looked up the songs by title and artist only and replaced all the tracks in a mix CD with single versions of those songs, needless to say not mixed. I also have other songs which simply refuse to sync. The article says: If you subscribe to both iTunes Match and Apple Music, then iTunes matches your songs using digital fingerprinting - but I thought Apple Music included iTunes match. Do I seriously have to sign up for another product as well to get this working? Not very impressed.

delambo 11y ago
The best way to organize a mix in iTunes is to create a playlist with all of the songs, make sure the album title is the same for each artist, then select all of the songs and open the Info menu (CMD-I) and mark them as a Compilation. Marking them as a compilation will organize them on the file system together under the "iTunes/.../Music/Compilations/" directory, which hopefully will make migrating off of iTunes in the future an easier thing to do.

rbinv 11y ago

Yes, it has. It replaced live versions with album versions, non-censored (explicit) tracks with censored ones.