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Nothing is ever really finished. Apple's been working on their version 10 for 14 years.

joshstrange 11y ago
Except that OS X versions are generally not this buggy on release IMHO. Really the dual interfaces to the same thing are the worst part of Windows 10 right now.
- NDizzle 11y ago
  OSX not buggy? Have you not updated in the last ~3 years or something?!
  - DrJokepu 11y ago
    …or the first ~3 years of OS X, for that matter.
  - joshstrange 11y ago
    I have been using it for the last 5yrs or so. While I have run into 1-2 little issues here and there I have never experienced the level of duplicate interfaces that do the same thing and not knowing where to go to do something. While I use OS X as my primary I need to use (and test) with Windows for some things. I feel utterly lost in Win10 (and largely in 8 as well) because the interfaces they force on you make statements about OS X "Fisher-price-y ease of use/dumbing down" pale in comparison. That's what I focused on in my comment: > Really the dual interfaces to the same thing are the worst part of Windows 10 right now.
- perssontm 11y ago
  If they keep the trend there will also be at least 4 different folders called Photos in 4 different places by default, and none of them goes to the same photos.
- mkonecny 11y ago
  The last few OS X versions have been notorious for the amount of bugs they introduced (both general software and driver issues) Coming from a company that only sells on a narrow range of hardware, these is even more unacceptable.
- iamstephenliu 11y ago
  IIRC, 10.7 was buggy as mad hell. I'm surprised Microsoft still hasn't fixed the dual interfaces problem, though.
- chrismarlow9 11y ago
  The technical debt will catch Apple, it's not if, but when, and from my view it's getting worse with every release. I'm curious to see if Google's willingness to just abandon things that are holding them back will pay off.
  - wtallis 11y ago
    Apple's obviously not just letting the technical debt pile up. They've put a lot of effort in to addressing it in a lot of areas. Some of it hasn't resulted in a usable replacement (ZFS, discoveryd), but other areas have been modernized (LLVM, launchd, Core whatever frameworks, Gatekeeper).

Except that OS X versions are generally not this buggy on release IMHO. Really the dual interfaces to the same thing are the worst part of Windows 10 right now.

NDizzle 11y ago
OSX not buggy? Have you not updated in the last ~3 years or something?!
- DrJokepu 11y ago
  …or the first ~3 years of OS X, for that matter.
- joshstrange 11y ago
  I have been using it for the last 5yrs or so. While I have run into 1-2 little issues here and there I have never experienced the level of duplicate interfaces that do the same thing and not knowing where to go to do something. While I use OS X as my primary I need to use (and test) with Windows for some things. I feel utterly lost in Win10 (and largely in 8 as well) because the interfaces they force on you make statements about OS X "Fisher-price-y ease of use/dumbing down" pale in comparison. That's what I focused on in my comment: > Really the dual interfaces to the same thing are the worst part of Windows 10 right now.
perssontm 11y ago
If they keep the trend there will also be at least 4 different folders called Photos in 4 different places by default, and none of them goes to the same photos.
mkonecny 11y ago
The last few OS X versions have been notorious for the amount of bugs they introduced (both general software and driver issues) Coming from a company that only sells on a narrow range of hardware, these is even more unacceptable.
iamstephenliu 11y ago
IIRC, 10.7 was buggy as mad hell. I'm surprised Microsoft still hasn't fixed the dual interfaces problem, though.
chrismarlow9 11y ago
The technical debt will catch Apple, it's not if, but when, and from my view it's getting worse with every release. I'm curious to see if Google's willingness to just abandon things that are holding them back will pay off.
- wtallis 11y ago
  Apple's obviously not just letting the technical debt pile up. They've put a lot of effort in to addressing it in a lot of areas. Some of it hasn't resulted in a usable replacement (ZFS, discoveryd), but other areas have been modernized (LLVM, launchd, Core whatever frameworks, Gatekeeper).