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relevant : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery These people aren't "savages", their lead

by aikah 11y ago

relevant : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery These people aren't "savages", their leaders are highly educated , they have a 'Nazi' like doctrine which is methodical and somehow 'rational' from an economic and political standpoint. But as someone interested in old Egyptian mythology I wish the media stopped calling them ISIS.

luso_brazilian 11y ago
If you think Egyptian mythology has a problem with the name clash imagine this software incubator (also called Isis) [1] "Thursday, April 2, 2015 - 09:30 to 11:30 Isis Innovation Ltd, Ewert House, Ewert Place, Oxford OX2 7SG, United Kingdom The Isis Software Incubator is running its spring 4 week accelerator programme starting March 23. During this time several of our ventures will come in for 4 full weeks of working to progress their ventures and participating in different training sessions we’ve put together for them. For the first time we're opening up our doors so you can join them for these!" [1] http://www.eship.ox.ac.uk/startup-marketing-1-isis-software-incubator http://www.eship.ox.ac.uk/startup-marketing-1-isis-software-...
- comrh 11y ago
  The TV show Archer also had that problem. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/showbiz/tv/archer-isis-fx/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/showbiz/tv/archer-isis-fx/
dublinben 11y ago
>calling them ISIS I think you can fairly reliably tell the quality of news source based on what they call this organization. You should just ignore anyone calling them ISIS. At least listen to anyone who calls them ISIL. Anyone who still calls them IS, or the Islamic State, needs to get with the times. Finally, you can probably trust that anyone referring to them as Daesh knows what they are talking about. https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-isis-war-use-daesh/V85GYEuasEEJgrUun0dMUP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-...
- rglullis 11y ago
  Come on, really? This seems like a lot you want to place trust to whomever presents some kind of posturing than anything. Discouraging others to people to even hear other sources based on the name seem like a perfect recipe for indoctrination. I'd rather read whatever I can and form my own opinion on the matter.
  - dublinben 11y ago
    That was not intended as a serious comment. It was poking light fun at all the media hemming and hawing that goes into terminology like this. I could have expressed the point more sarcastically, so that it was more clear.
- Nadya 11y ago
  Why would you give filth a name at all [0]? I would not trust any news source that gives a name to filth, especially one still based on a name it calls itself. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization
  - dublinben 11y ago
    If you read the article, you'll see that Daesh is itself an insulting name. If you have to refer to them somehow, it might as well be a way that upsets them.
    - Nadya 11y ago
      Since we're playing the "if you read" game, I did. I also bothered to research the claim [0]. The article's explanation for why Daesh is insulting is wrong (has nothing to do with conjugation) and the reason the filth gets so upset by the name could just as easily occur by calling filth "filth" as it would by calling filth "Daesh". [0] https://www.freewordcentre.com/blog/2015/02/daesh-isis-media-alice-guthrie/ https://www.freewordcentre.com/blog/2015/02/daesh-isis-media...
- _nedR 11y ago

by aikah 11y ago

luso_brazilian 11y ago

If you think Egyptian mythology has a problem with the name clash imagine this software incubator (also called Isis) [1] "Thursday, April 2, 2015 - 09:30 to 11:30 Isis Innovation Ltd, Ewert House, Ewert Place, Oxford OX2 7SG, United Kingdom The Isis Software Incubator is running its spring 4 week accelerator programme starting March 23. During this time several of our ventures will come in for 4 full weeks of working to progress their ventures and participating in different training sessions we’ve put together for them. For the first time we're opening up our doors so you can join them for these!" [1] http://www.eship.ox.ac.uk/startup-marketing-1-isis-software-incubator http://www.eship.ox.ac.uk/startup-marketing-1-isis-software-...

comrh 11y ago
The TV show Archer also had that problem. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/showbiz/tv/archer-isis-fx/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/showbiz/tv/archer-isis-fx/

dublinben 11y ago

>calling them ISIS I think you can fairly reliably tell the quality of news source based on what they call this organization. You should just ignore anyone calling them ISIS. At least listen to anyone who calls them ISIL. Anyone who still calls them IS, or the Islamic State, needs to get with the times. Finally, you can probably trust that anyone referring to them as Daesh knows what they are talking about. https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-isis-war-use-daesh/V85GYEuasEEJgrUun0dMUP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/09/words-matter-...

rglullis 11y ago
Come on, really? This seems like a lot you want to place trust to whomever presents some kind of posturing than anything. Discouraging others to people to even hear other sources based on the name seem like a perfect recipe for indoctrination. I'd rather read whatever I can and form my own opinion on the matter.
- dublinben 11y ago
  That was not intended as a serious comment. It was poking light fun at all the media hemming and hawing that goes into terminology like this. I could have expressed the point more sarcastically, so that it was more clear.
Nadya 11y ago
Why would you give filth a name at all [0]? I would not trust any news source that gives a name to filth, especially one still based on a name it calls itself. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization
- dublinben 11y ago
  If you read the article, you'll see that Daesh is itself an insulting name. If you have to refer to them somehow, it might as well be a way that upsets them.
  - Nadya 11y ago
    Since we're playing the "if you read" game, I did. I also bothered to research the claim [0]. The article's explanation for why Daesh is insulting is wrong (has nothing to do with conjugation) and the reason the filth gets so upset by the name could just as easily occur by calling filth "filth" as it would by calling filth "Daesh". [0] https://www.freewordcentre.com/blog/2015/02/daesh-isis-media-alice-guthrie/ https://www.freewordcentre.com/blog/2015/02/daesh-isis-media...
_nedR 11y ago