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That's not at all what he's saying. You're trying to validate what you do. Your AKA is pulled completely from your mind and has nothing to do with with original

by philtar 11y ago

That's not at all what he's saying. You're trying to validate what you do. Your AKA is pulled completely from your mind and has nothing to do with with original statement. A leader has people skills above all else. > I'm guilty as charged as well You two are not being charged for the same thing.

tacos 11y ago
I related to much of what he was saying. Between the lines I felt what was going unsaid. So I brought experience and humanity to the discussion. I am not seeking validation. > A leader has people skills above all else. Leadership skills and interpersonal skills and management skills are completely separate. Amazing leaders/motivators who are downright shitty people are not uncommon in our industry. This particular leader made the classic mistake of doing too much. "Nobody else wants to do it? Nobody wants to take responsibility for this? I will. I'll do it" is the definition of a bad manager. And admitting it in your farewell post doesn't demonstrate great people skills either. Regardless, these people are all around us. And they deserve a beer and a mentor and some help. Next time you're looking for a project to contribute to, consider helping that guy.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > Leadership skills and interpersonal skills and management skills are completely separate. No, they aren't. Leadership skills are a subset of interpersonal skills and management skills overlap interpersonal (especially the leadership subset) skills. They are all different sets, but they aren't completely separate.
  - tacos 11y ago
    If you're drawing a Venn Diagram of "ways to commmunicate" in two dimensions, sure. If you're thinking about humanity and ethics and the way each of those skills is valued by a community in transition, the ellipsoids don't have to touch. Might I suggest the current incarnation of Donald Trump as a case study if Steve Jobs is too trite.

by philtar 11y ago

tacos 11y ago

I related to much of what he was saying. Between the lines I felt what was going unsaid. So I brought experience and humanity to the discussion. I am not seeking validation. > A leader has people skills above all else. Leadership skills and interpersonal skills and management skills are completely separate. Amazing leaders/motivators who are downright shitty people are not uncommon in our industry. This particular leader made the classic mistake of doing too much. "Nobody else wants to do it? Nobody wants to take responsibility for this? I will. I'll do it" is the definition of a bad manager. And admitting it in your farewell post doesn't demonstrate great people skills either. Regardless, these people are all around us. And they deserve a beer and a mentor and some help. Next time you're looking for a project to contribute to, consider helping that guy.

dragonwriter 11y ago
> Leadership skills and interpersonal skills and management skills are completely separate. No, they aren't. Leadership skills are a subset of interpersonal skills and management skills overlap interpersonal (especially the leadership subset) skills. They are all different sets, but they aren't completely separate.
- tacos 11y ago
  If you're drawing a Venn Diagram of "ways to commmunicate" in two dimensions, sure. If you're thinking about humanity and ethics and the way each of those skills is valued by a community in transition, the ellipsoids don't have to touch. Might I suggest the current incarnation of Donald Trump as a case study if Steve Jobs is too trite.