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> 4. replace the whole "economic growth" philosophy with something else that is consistent and reconcilable with planetary ecological limits Sadly Capitalism a

> 4. replace the whole "economic growth" philosophy with something else that is consistent and reconcilable with planetary ecological limits Sadly Capitalism and the ideology that Americans and now it seems the entire world has bought into won't allow that. I agree with Jimmy Carter: "The U.S. Is an "Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery"[1] See also Yes, We’re Corrupt”: A List of Politicians Admitting That Money Controls Politics[2] - [1] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u... [2] https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/politicians-admitting-obvious-fact-money-affects-vote/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/politicians-ad...

raverbashing 11y ago
> Sadly Capitalism and the ideology that Americans and now it seems the entire world has bought Oh the whole world hasn't bough it. North Korea is still free from it. Cuba seems to have regretted it though
- shoo 11y ago
  As an aside from the discussion of capitalism versus other economic systems, Cuba provides a historical case study of a society that didn't collapse after experiencing severe shortages of fossil fuels. See e.g. [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  Not believing in capitalism is like not believing in evolution. The fringes on both sides are ridiculous. Both require willful disregard of reality.
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- eevilspock 11y ago
  Please, do better than putting up straw men, especially the ridiculous false choice between Capitalism and dictatorship. And please also refrain from these other logical fallacies: - Domination proves superiority - Being better than bad solutions proves it is a good or even best solution. There were times that the whole world bought into a bunch of stupid things: - creationism - slavery - patriarchy, sexism - kings as gods - gods as gods Oh snap! Most have still bought into those things. Though in some cases (such as slavery) we've rebranded it (commoditized, capitalized labor).

raverbashing 11y ago

> Sadly Capitalism and the ideology that Americans and now it seems the entire world has bought Oh the whole world hasn't bough it. North Korea is still free from it. Cuba seems to have regretted it though

shoo 11y ago
As an aside from the discussion of capitalism versus other economic systems, Cuba provides a historical case study of a society that didn't collapse after experiencing severe shortages of fossil fuels. See e.g. [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period
happyscrappy 11y ago
Not believing in capitalism is like not believing in evolution. The fringes on both sides are ridiculous. Both require willful disregard of reality.
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eevilspock 11y ago
Please, do better than putting up straw men, especially the ridiculous false choice between Capitalism and dictatorship. And please also refrain from these other logical fallacies: - Domination proves superiority - Being better than bad solutions proves it is a good or even best solution. There were times that the whole world bought into a bunch of stupid things: - creationism - slavery - patriarchy, sexism - kings as gods - gods as gods Oh snap! Most have still bought into those things. Though in some cases (such as slavery) we've rebranded it (commoditized, capitalized labor).