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ZenPayroll is opening a Denver, CO office, looking to hire 100 people[1]. [1] http://fortune.com/2015/07/28/zenpayroll-jobs-denver-colorado/ http://fortune.com

by Osiris 11y ago

ZenPayroll is opening a Denver, CO office, looking to hire 100 people[1]. [1] http://fortune.com/2015/07/28/zenpayroll-jobs-denver-colorado/ http://fortune.com/2015/07/28/zenpayroll-jobs-denver-colorad...

czbond 11y ago
Boulder is an incredibly difficult market to hire in. I was talkign to the head of Google Boulder when he mentioned they can't even get engineers hired there.
- davidw 11y ago
  Boulder is weird... I was all set to go there, and got a better offer in Bend, Oregon, which is significantly cheaper in terms of housing. I'm kind of happy about how it turned out. I didn't like the idea of turning over such a large portion of my paycheck to a landlord. Things are not cheap here in Bend, but I have more of a feeling of getting in earlier, while things are still growing.
  - mooreds 11y ago
    I loved Bend when I visited a decade ago. It has a lot of the benefits of Boulder plus an ocean not too far away (but further from an airport and major metropolitan area). Didn't seem like much business was happening when I visited, though (other than tourism). Is there a tech scene now?
    - davidw 11y ago
      > Is there a tech scene now? Yeah - it's small, but seems to be taking off. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223997 http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223997 I had some doubts about moving back to the US from Italy, but so far we're really happy in Bend. We'll see how the winter goes.
      - czbond 11y ago
        How was the tech environment in the portion of Italy you were in?
    - deleted 11y ago
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- justinator 11y ago
  Living in Boulder, I'm curious as to why? I'm seeing the other side of the coin, where getting hired is proving very difficult. The joke here is even the dirtbag climbers have PHDs.
  - czbond 11y ago
    He mentioned a lot of things related to hiring - but specifically it was that there are a lot of engineers in the Denver Metro (in fact I think the highest grouping of software engineers in the US), but that many enterprise companies kept them employed. He mentioned that it was difficult to hire younger SW engineers out of school as they were going to startups. Also, that their average age is skewing older, which is driving up their benefits (healthcare, etc) costs.
  - mooreds 11y ago
    It might be hard to get hired writing perl in Boulder (I checked out your profile) but if you're interested in other languages, I can do some intros for you. Or you could always move to Amsterdam: http://blog.booking.com/ http://blog.booking.com/
    - justinator 11y ago
      Having visited Amsterdam, I'd be curious to live there on a permanent basis, although I am also in love with mountains (which the entire country lacks...) - as I think a lot of people who end up in Boulder can relate to. Booking does have a somewhat strange reputation when it comes to their coding style, I'm not sure if I could really come on board fully with their workflow. Ha. I haven't gotten a Perl job in Boulder since 1999, and I don't know if I've seen one posted since then, either. My expertise is a little broader than just slinging Perl, fortunately, but I do find it to be a most agreeable language to a creative, visually-oriented mind. What am I referring to is the scenario where you can apply for a job, and rarely even expect to hear back from a potential employer, as the total number of people also applying makes that impossible. This, I don't think, is very different from other areas of the country. Google moving to Boulder is sort of a mixed bag, and there is a number of people who are not looking forward to them coming.
- mooreds 11y ago
  Interesting. I applied to Google a while back and never got a call back (except someone called me trying to get me to move to Mountain View or NY for a devops team). I know they are building a bigger campus[0] so maybe they are having a hard time because it is a bigger number of reqs than in the past? 0: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_27063628/google-build-new-boulder-campus-room-1-500 http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_27063628/google-build-...

by Osiris 11y ago

czbond 11y ago

Boulder is an incredibly difficult market to hire in. I was talkign to the head of Google Boulder when he mentioned they can't even get engineers hired there.

davidw 11y ago
Boulder is weird... I was all set to go there, and got a better offer in Bend, Oregon, which is significantly cheaper in terms of housing. I'm kind of happy about how it turned out. I didn't like the idea of turning over such a large portion of my paycheck to a landlord. Things are not cheap here in Bend, but I have more of a feeling of getting in earlier, while things are still growing.
- mooreds 11y ago
  I loved Bend when I visited a decade ago. It has a lot of the benefits of Boulder plus an ocean not too far away (but further from an airport and major metropolitan area). Didn't seem like much business was happening when I visited, though (other than tourism). Is there a tech scene now?
  - davidw 11y ago
    > Is there a tech scene now? Yeah - it's small, but seems to be taking off. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223997 http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223997 I had some doubts about moving back to the US from Italy, but so far we're really happy in Bend. We'll see how the winter goes.
    - czbond 11y ago
      How was the tech environment in the portion of Italy you were in?
  - deleted 11y ago
    [deleted]
justinator 11y ago
Living in Boulder, I'm curious as to why? I'm seeing the other side of the coin, where getting hired is proving very difficult. The joke here is even the dirtbag climbers have PHDs.
- czbond 11y ago
  He mentioned a lot of things related to hiring - but specifically it was that there are a lot of engineers in the Denver Metro (in fact I think the highest grouping of software engineers in the US), but that many enterprise companies kept them employed. He mentioned that it was difficult to hire younger SW engineers out of school as they were going to startups. Also, that their average age is skewing older, which is driving up their benefits (healthcare, etc) costs.
- mooreds 11y ago
  It might be hard to get hired writing perl in Boulder (I checked out your profile) but if you're interested in other languages, I can do some intros for you. Or you could always move to Amsterdam: http://blog.booking.com/ http://blog.booking.com/
  - justinator 11y ago
    Having visited Amsterdam, I'd be curious to live there on a permanent basis, although I am also in love with mountains (which the entire country lacks...) - as I think a lot of people who end up in Boulder can relate to. Booking does have a somewhat strange reputation when it comes to their coding style, I'm not sure if I could really come on board fully with their workflow. Ha. I haven't gotten a Perl job in Boulder since 1999, and I don't know if I've seen one posted since then, either. My expertise is a little broader than just slinging Perl, fortunately, but I do find it to be a most agreeable language to a creative, visually-oriented mind. What am I referring to is the scenario where you can apply for a job, and rarely even expect to hear back from a potential employer, as the total number of people also applying makes that impossible. This, I don't think, is very different from other areas of the country. Google moving to Boulder is sort of a mixed bag, and there is a number of people who are not looking forward to them coming.
mooreds 11y ago
Interesting. I applied to Google a while back and never got a call back (except someone called me trying to get me to move to Mountain View or NY for a devops team). I know they are building a bigger campus[0] so maybe they are having a hard time because it is a bigger number of reqs than in the past? 0: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_27063628/google-build-new-boulder-campus-room-1-500 http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_27063628/google-build-...