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I don't mean to be an asshole, but your criticism is basically along the lines of "You're doing this all wrong, do it how I say this should be done" They don't
by condescendence 11y ago
I don't mean to be an asshole, but your criticism is basically along the lines of "You're doing this all wrong, do it how I say this should be done"
They don't have physical servers, he's already answered that in your last comment. Each user is going to get their own VPS through AWS or another provider, so most likely these "hosts" are technically physically separated.
This service is basically a drag and drop app foundation, its a glorified SaaS. It's adding a layer of ease between having to purchase your own VPS and deploy these apps. Now someone can just purchase through this service, get their VPS purchased for them and deployed with a nice interface that magically sets up software.
What you're mentioning is an entirely different business plan on its own. You're talking about buying physical hardware, servers, switches, etc. Which would require setting up VLans...etc for true separation.
Cloudron is making an argument about privacy through the features they offer. I'm sure they would have loved to buy hundreds of servers and allow for everyone to have their own little Fort Knox in a Box but this is unobtainable from their viewpoint. They've come up with compromises to create a unified and monetarily obtainable product.
A good product is a compromise between what's needed, and what's available. You can't make something out of nothing (most of the time). If the resources aren't available, or if implementability isn't possible then you start to compromise. This is what happened here. Two guys who had a similar idea of privacy wanted to get together to provide a nice server/cloud service, and this cool little website is the result of that. Maybe in the future they can get their Fort Knox going, but for right now I don't see that happening because of the costs associated with it.
- nickpsecurity 11y agoThat comment was directed at any readers who clicked on this interested in a more private cloud offering comparable to dedicated servers in isolation. I clicked it hoping for something like that. Every similar link on private clouds was something like Cloudron or a hybrid cloud that scaled up using something like Cloudron. It was all virtualization. So, far from a gripe at Cloudron, this second comment is for HN readers who were looking for what I was looking for. Also found the appropriate buzzword ("bare metal") to help them find comparable offerings. Far as Cloudron, the co-founder already helpfully told me what their goals/market were, they made sense, and I wished them well on that. That I had nothing more to say on that tangent is why I made a separate comment for bare-metal, cloud hosting.