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There's also a difference in perception between Apple's "trusted partners" and MS and Google's "trusted partners". Since MS and Google make a large amount of mo
by vitd 11y ago
There's also a difference in perception between Apple's "trusted partners" and MS and Google's "trusted partners". Since MS and Google make a large amount of money from selling you to others, I just instantly assume that they're sharing my data with advertisers. Since I pay for all my Apple stuff and they repeatedly say that they don't sell my data, I assume that "trusted partners" means companies they've outsourced speech recognition to, or whatever, and that it won't ever be used for tracking or advertising.
- _yosefk 11y agoIsn't MS closer to Apple than Google in terms of how it makes money? You pay directly for all or most of its stuff. Also, I thought Google sold your eyeballs to advertisers but not your data nor how it figured that it were your eyeballs that were most fit for the ad. (I guess for some ads, the very fact that it thought your eyeballs were fit for them already discloses more about you than you'd like... and I'd guess that at least some ads placed by Google would be able to figure out whom they were shown to. But other than that, isn't data collected by Google kept secret from everybody else? It'd make sense from a business standpoint apart from any other considerations; better keep the competitive advantage, and better keep exactly what you know a secret from users as well as competitors.)
- xanderstrike 11y ago> Google sold your eyeballs to advertisers but not your data nor how it figured that it were your eyeballs that were most fit for the ad. This is exactly correct, and it's why I prefer trusting Google with my data over anyone else. I'd rather have my eyeballs bought and sold by a company who's only competitive advantage is the fact that only they have my data.
- bad_user 11y agoMicrosoft has Bing and their own advertising platform, with a tight partnership with Yahoo. Bing is now tightly integrated within Windows since version 8, ads and all. It's really irrelevant how much money Microsoft makes from this when they are in the same business. Also, I interacted with Google's AdX and others and I must say that Google's AdX is much more restrictive in the user data exposed. The identifiers they give are completely unreliable for tracking users and they don't even give away the full IP. They are also doing a good job in reviewing the content being served on the client side, they detect if you're setting cookies or doing other things that are against their policy and their approval process is a pain in the ass. Other competing platforms, like MoPub (now owned by Twitter), are much more relaxed. The general rule of thumb in the ads space - the bigger you are, the more eyes are watching you, this is why smaller players are breaking the rules with the purpose of grabbing as much land as possible before going public.
- pistle 11y agoBing has also been the default for Apple's Siri for a couple years? They may be growing their own search engine to support Siri, but I'd be interested to know if there are any identifiers passed to Bing for those searches... Trusted Partners and all.
- Sgt_Apone 11y agoWasn't Bing Ads just sold to AOL a month ago?
- kayone 11y agoThere are a lot of assumptions in your post, but I guess that's implied given you are talking about perceptions. At least for me I tend to trust MS (at least the new MS) more than I do apple or even google.