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He makes comments about every group, I've seen no persistent bias against any group (aside from politicians who make it less fun to drive). And he certainly do

He makes comments about every group, I've seen no persistent bias against any group (aside from politicians who make it less fun to drive). And he certainly doesn't exclude himself/his own type, as there's something negative about the UK practically 30 seconds. As for "it's just a joke", yes, it is. Pretty much every successful comedian uses ethnicity/race sometimes. Bad ones rely on it entirely (Ex: Carlos Mencia). But as something that should be off limits for humor? No.

foldr 11y ago
Any instances of Clarkson making offensive comments about white people? Also, when all the presenters are white, it's a little hard to take this "we make fun of everyone" line seriously. If a white British person makes fun of white British people, that's obviously a different dynamic to a white British person making fun of people lower down the social pecking order. Oh, and then outside the show, there's the times Clarkson has explicitly advocated racism: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9247835/Jeremy-Clarkson-claims-airport-delays-could-be-solved-with-a-bit-of-racism.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9247835/J...
- wesomefolks 11y ago
  > Any instances of Clarkson making offensive comments about white people? The whole mainstream media makes offensive comments about white people, how they are responsible for slavery, how they are all racists, how they are incompetent husbands, aloof fathers, conspiracy theorists, the list goes on. But god forbid white people are allowed to watch another white guy crack a few jokes at other races. > that's obviously a different dynamic to a white British person making fun of people lower down the social pecking order. That's racist. Wow. True racism right here. Excuse me? So you really think there are groups of people, I assume ethnic groups, who are "lower down the social pecking order"? That is unadultered racism - the belief that another ethnic group is inferior to your ethnic group in anyway. I have no problem with any word being used by any comedian, but if they ever said "I think black people are lower down in the social pecking order" then that would be a truly unambiguous racist statement.
- cwisecarver 11y ago
  You should watch the show before you speak about it. They make fun of each other, they make fun of Americans, they make fun of the Welsh, they make fun of people from the North, they make fun of the French, the Germans, Mexicans, Africans, Koreans and many more. Literally everyone. The show was about them pushing limits. They were cast as hyperbole factories. They were caricatures of middle-aged white English guys.
  - foldr 11y ago
    As I said, when you have a group consisting exclusively of middle-aged white English guys, then making fun of "everyone" is not really as equitable as you're making out. Punching down isn't the same thing as poking fun at yourself. If me and my white friends get together and tell some racist jokes about black people followed by some racist jokes about white people to "balance it out", that's not ok.
- yokohama11 11y ago
  He makes fun of himself, his co-presenters and basically everything about the UK and British people constantly (especially when it comes to manufacturing). For that matter, they've done entire episodes about how terrible the UK is at things, like the British Leyland cheap car challenge. If he made those comments about anything else, someone would call them offensive. I find that double standard and the concept that you can't make jokes about anything far more concerning than the content of his "controversies" aside from the punching.
  - foldr 11y ago
    I don't see how that's comparable. He's used racist slurs against various non-white ethnic groups and explicitly advocated for discrimination against certain (non-white) ethnic groups. If he's done the same with regard to white people, I'd be interested to hear about it.
    - ptaipale 11y ago
      You never heard him talk about the French? (Or Germans, for that matter.)
      - foldr 11y ago
        Yes, I have often heard white Europeans making fun of other white Europeans. The idea that it's ok to tell racist jokes as long as you also poke fun at more privileged groups of people simply makes no sense. That being said, Clarkson's xenophobia is hardly any more defensible than his racism.
        ptaipale 11y ago
        First you say you are interested if he makes fun of white people, and when it is pointed out that he makes fun of white people, it is not interesting because then he is just making fun of "privileged" groups. Clarkson makes fun of everyone, himself more than anyone else (call that privilege). That is why he is funny.

foldr 11y ago

Any instances of Clarkson making offensive comments about white people? Also, when all the presenters are white, it's a little hard to take this "we make fun of everyone" line seriously. If a white British person makes fun of white British people, that's obviously a different dynamic to a white British person making fun of people lower down the social pecking order. Oh, and then outside the show, there's the times Clarkson has explicitly advocated racism: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9247835/Jeremy-Clarkson-claims-airport-delays-could-be-solved-with-a-bit-of-racism.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9247835/J...

wesomefolks 11y ago
> Any instances of Clarkson making offensive comments about white people? The whole mainstream media makes offensive comments about white people, how they are responsible for slavery, how they are all racists, how they are incompetent husbands, aloof fathers, conspiracy theorists, the list goes on. But god forbid white people are allowed to watch another white guy crack a few jokes at other races. > that's obviously a different dynamic to a white British person making fun of people lower down the social pecking order. That's racist. Wow. True racism right here. Excuse me? So you really think there are groups of people, I assume ethnic groups, who are "lower down the social pecking order"? That is unadultered racism - the belief that another ethnic group is inferior to your ethnic group in anyway. I have no problem with any word being used by any comedian, but if they ever said "I think black people are lower down in the social pecking order" then that would be a truly unambiguous racist statement.
cwisecarver 11y ago
You should watch the show before you speak about it. They make fun of each other, they make fun of Americans, they make fun of the Welsh, they make fun of people from the North, they make fun of the French, the Germans, Mexicans, Africans, Koreans and many more. Literally everyone. The show was about them pushing limits. They were cast as hyperbole factories. They were caricatures of middle-aged white English guys.
- foldr 11y ago
  As I said, when you have a group consisting exclusively of middle-aged white English guys, then making fun of "everyone" is not really as equitable as you're making out. Punching down isn't the same thing as poking fun at yourself. If me and my white friends get together and tell some racist jokes about black people followed by some racist jokes about white people to "balance it out", that's not ok.
yokohama11 11y ago
He makes fun of himself, his co-presenters and basically everything about the UK and British people constantly (especially when it comes to manufacturing). For that matter, they've done entire episodes about how terrible the UK is at things, like the British Leyland cheap car challenge. If he made those comments about anything else, someone would call them offensive. I find that double standard and the concept that you can't make jokes about anything far more concerning than the content of his "controversies" aside from the punching.
- foldr 11y ago
  I don't see how that's comparable. He's used racist slurs against various non-white ethnic groups and explicitly advocated for discrimination against certain (non-white) ethnic groups. If he's done the same with regard to white people, I'd be interested to hear about it.
  - ptaipale 11y ago
    You never heard him talk about the French? (Or Germans, for that matter.)
    - foldr 11y ago
      Yes, I have often heard white Europeans making fun of other white Europeans. The idea that it's ok to tell racist jokes as long as you also poke fun at more privileged groups of people simply makes no sense. That being said, Clarkson's xenophobia is hardly any more defensible than his racism.
      - ptaipale 11y ago
        First you say you are interested if he makes fun of white people, and when it is pointed out that he makes fun of white people, it is not interesting because then he is just making fun of "privileged" groups. Clarkson makes fun of everyone, himself more than anyone else (call that privilege). That is why he is funny.