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1 - We don't expect anyone to give up this much time. I realize that it's a big ask. However, a lot of programmers we've spoken too really want this option. Any

by ammon 11y ago

1 - We don't expect anyone to give up this much time. I realize that it's a big ask. However, a lot of programmers we've spoken too really want this option. Anyone who does not want to is totally free to go with the (faster) regular interview. Either they let is watch them code for a short time, or they code for a longer time on their own. 2 - I can't say for sure (we're only just launching this), but I hope (and think) that talking with someone for 45-minutes about the project that they did will be enough to make sure that they actually did it themselves

bjones22 11y ago
Out of curiosity, what are the demographics of the people who made these suggestions? Were they employed? Were they very desirable to companies? Were they very undesirable to companies? Did they have financial hardships? College graduates? College dropouts? I think it's important to remember how diverse the hiring pool is, and which voices tend to be the loudest. I would argue that the advice most companies get are from very successful companies. Similarly engineers likely seek advice from very successful engineers. Both these groups are in the minority I think, and would thus not be in the best position to dictate for the majority (strictly in terms of fulfilling individual needs that they themselves have not encountered, personally or otherwise). Example: 10x programmer wants a hiring process that caters to 10x programmers. Problem: Vast majority of programmers do not fall into this category, and would not benefit from such a system. Yet companies want 10xers, so they go with it anyways. Then they complain about how hard it is to hire programmers.
- ammon 11y ago
  Less experienced programmers are definitely over represented in engineers adversely affected by stress. This could be because people get better at interviewing at they gain experience, or because the people who can't perform under interview stress drop out of the profession

by ammon 11y ago

bjones22 11y ago

Out of curiosity, what are the demographics of the people who made these suggestions? Were they employed? Were they very desirable to companies? Were they very undesirable to companies? Did they have financial hardships? College graduates? College dropouts? I think it's important to remember how diverse the hiring pool is, and which voices tend to be the loudest. I would argue that the advice most companies get are from very successful companies. Similarly engineers likely seek advice from very successful engineers. Both these groups are in the minority I think, and would thus not be in the best position to dictate for the majority (strictly in terms of fulfilling individual needs that they themselves have not encountered, personally or otherwise). Example: 10x programmer wants a hiring process that caters to 10x programmers. Problem: Vast majority of programmers do not fall into this category, and would not benefit from such a system. Yet companies want 10xers, so they go with it anyways. Then they complain about how hard it is to hire programmers.

ammon 11y ago
Less experienced programmers are definitely over represented in engineers adversely affected by stress. This could be because people get better at interviewing at they gain experience, or because the people who can't perform under interview stress drop out of the profession