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I just found out about GitLab today. I was pleasantly surprised! The only complaints I have: (1) GitHub has IMO a better landing page for projects, showing both

by tomp 11y ago

I just found out about GitLab today. I was pleasantly surprised! The only complaints I have: (1) GitHub has IMO a better landing page for projects, showing both files and a readme; (2) Personally, I prefer GitHub's layout (more white space), it's definitely better for reading, although your menu-on-the-right layout is probably better for navigation and management, and (3) I couldn't find an example of a Wiki. All in all, a great project, I'll probably be using it soon. Good work, and good luck with it! Also, do you clarify anywhere what's your approach to controversial projects - like "retards", PopcornTime and C+= - would they be allowed on site or taken down? Edit: never mind the last question, apparently you censored the GamergateOP repository, I guess that answers it.

sytse 11y ago
Thanks! 1. The files + readme is something we considered but we choose to show an overview of the project and the readme, we think this is cleaner. You can configure to see the activity feed instead of the readme if you mostly use the same projects (in a company for example). See https://about.gitlab.com/2015/07/22/gitlab-7-13-released/ https://about.gitlab.com/2015/07/22/gitlab-7-13-released/ But what we learned so far that there are no perfect choices for the homepage. 2. I think you mean our menu-on-the-left layout? 3. We do have wiki's, for example see https://gitlab.maikel.pro/maikeldus/WhatsSpy-Public/wikis/home https://gitlab.maikel.pro/maikeldus/WhatsSpy-Public/wikis/ho... Great to hear you'll be using it soon. We have one button importers for most platforms. Regarding the controversy please see my comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967545 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967545
- tomp 11y ago
  2 - Yes. Re: controversy - ok, so the same as GitHub or Reddit, you just arbitrarily choose what to take down and when. In particular, this leaves all repositories open to media-induced attention and controversy, followed by a takedown. IMO, having an explicit, well-defined policy would be much better, even if it's highly restrictive, as long as it's objective (i.e. no "offended" and similar) and changes aren't applied retroactively. I agree that being open source helps, and I thank you for that, but I still wish there was a hosted site with a large community safe from censorship.
  - sytse 11y ago
    I would love an "explicit, well-defined policy". And I'm pretty sure Reddit would love one too. But it is hard to make one, do you have any examples of policies you like? It usually is hard to pin it down (I know it when I see it).
    - tomp 11y ago
      Ironically, the rules of reddit [1] are IMO pretty good guidelines. A code/document-hosting website would probably also want to specify something like "nothing illegal", to avoid DMCA/piracy/copyright issues. Obviously, reddit doesn't abide by it's own rules. That would require balls of steel (or equivalent for corporations), especially in the face of controversies such as The Fappening.
      - sytse 11y ago
        I see a reference to link [1] but not the link itself. I assume you are referring to https://www.reddit.com/rules/ https://www.reddit.com/rules/ I think I just saw them introduce other rules last week or so that were much more ambiguous.
        tomp 11y ago
        Yes, I'm an idiot, I forgot the link. That's exactly what I was referring to - these rules, not the ambiguous rules that reddit actually applies on their site these days.
        sytse 11y ago
        I think these rules have proved that they were too simplistic, the celebrity photo scandal caused https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2x0g9v/from_1_to_9000_communities_now_taking_steps_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2x0g9v/from_... I don't think we want to host nudes without consent on GitLab.com
  - s73v3r 11y ago
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
Can't blame them, I certainly wouldn't want that crap on my site.
- tomp 11y ago
  But where do you draw the line? Would you have the pro-choice crap on your site? How about the pro-life crap? Either way, you're going to offend someone, and host some "crap" on your site.

by tomp 11y ago

sytse 11y ago

Thanks! 1. The files + readme is something we considered but we choose to show an overview of the project and the readme, we think this is cleaner. You can configure to see the activity feed instead of the readme if you mostly use the same projects (in a company for example). See https://about.gitlab.com/2015/07/22/gitlab-7-13-released/ https://about.gitlab.com/2015/07/22/gitlab-7-13-released/ But what we learned so far that there are no perfect choices for the homepage. 2. I think you mean our menu-on-the-left layout? 3. We do have wiki's, for example see https://gitlab.maikel.pro/maikeldus/WhatsSpy-Public/wikis/home https://gitlab.maikel.pro/maikeldus/WhatsSpy-Public/wikis/ho... Great to hear you'll be using it soon. We have one button importers for most platforms. Regarding the controversy please see my comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967545 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967545

tomp 11y ago
2 - Yes. Re: controversy - ok, so the same as GitHub or Reddit, you just arbitrarily choose what to take down and when. In particular, this leaves all repositories open to media-induced attention and controversy, followed by a takedown. IMO, having an explicit, well-defined policy would be much better, even if it's highly restrictive, as long as it's objective (i.e. no "offended" and similar) and changes aren't applied retroactively. I agree that being open source helps, and I thank you for that, but I still wish there was a hosted site with a large community safe from censorship.
- sytse 11y ago
  I would love an "explicit, well-defined policy". And I'm pretty sure Reddit would love one too. But it is hard to make one, do you have any examples of policies you like? It usually is hard to pin it down (I know it when I see it).
  - tomp 11y ago
    Ironically, the rules of reddit [1] are IMO pretty good guidelines. A code/document-hosting website would probably also want to specify something like "nothing illegal", to avoid DMCA/piracy/copyright issues. Obviously, reddit doesn't abide by it's own rules. That would require balls of steel (or equivalent for corporations), especially in the face of controversies such as The Fappening.
    - sytse 11y ago
      I see a reference to link [1] but not the link itself. I assume you are referring to https://www.reddit.com/rules/ https://www.reddit.com/rules/ I think I just saw them introduce other rules last week or so that were much more ambiguous.
      - tomp 11y ago
        Yes, I'm an idiot, I forgot the link. That's exactly what I was referring to - these rules, not the ambiguous rules that reddit actually applies on their site these days.
        sytse 11y ago
        I think these rules have proved that they were too simplistic, the celebrity photo scandal caused https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2x0g9v/from_1_to_9000_communities_now_taking_steps_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2x0g9v/from_... I don't think we want to host nudes without consent on GitLab.com
- s73v3r 11y ago

GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago

Can't blame them, I certainly wouldn't want that crap on my site.

tomp 11y ago
But where do you draw the line? Would you have the pro-choice crap on your site? How about the pro-life crap? Either way, you're going to offend someone, and host some "crap" on your site.