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> If this is your advice then you shouldn't give advice. Stop with the blaming statements.
by kordless 11y ago
> If this is your advice then you shouldn't give advice.
Stop with the blaming statements.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoDo you have a better way to say "your advice is bad. stop spreading misinformation"?
- amouat 11y agoThere's no need to say that at all. Just address the points and let everyone form their own opinions.
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- toomuchtodo 11y agoBecause opinions are not the same as facts/best practices (nor is everyone's opinion equal). If you want to argue "this is the right way", be prepared to bring data and defend your statements. People here might be making critical decisions based on knowledge shared here, and they deserve the most accurate information possible.
- amouat 11y agoFully agree. That's why you should talk to the points and not make personal statements like "you shouldn't give advice".
- joslin01 11y agoI agree, and would enjoy a thoughtful discussion as to why my stack doesn't work and why I'm an idiot. Instead, it's just been countered by 5 bland rebuttals and a debate about whether or not I am an idiot and if I should be referred to as such. Not sure what you're implying either, but you can tell in my comment, I never came out of the gates saying "This is the best way!"
- collyw 11y agoIn the world of Agile, opinions seem to be treated as fact.
- gknoy 11y ago"There are some problems with your approach, and it could bite you in the tail when you least expect it. Here's what you should also know: ... (rest of GP's points)" This avoids saying "You're an idiot", which is nearly never constructive or helpful, and instead makes education and cooperation its goal. Most people respond better to that.
- laichzeit0 11y agoSometimes people need to know they're idiots without the person calling them an idiot having to tip-toe around the issue. Just like how some children are smarter than others and could actually benefit from ring labeled as such, put in a separate environment and given advanced problems to work on instead of lumping them with the rest of the herd. Just like fat people should be told they're fat and pay a premium for a seat on an airplane. Hell, if you look fat they should put you on a goddamn cattle scale and make you pay extra.
- kordless 11y agoWithout fully knowing what a person is thinking (and I'm talking in whole here), and the context they are thinking it in, it is impossible to always determine if what someone said is "idiotic" or not, much less be capable of determining if they themselves are an idiot. Given this provable fact, that means there exists a possibility someone ends up calling a savant an idiot for saying something that is viewed by them, or a group as a whole, as "idiotic".
- laichzeit0 11y agoAnd I'd wager to say that by and far the more likely possibility is that the person is actually an idiot. Just given that savants are an extremely small subset of the general population and if the bell curve is anything to go by, at least 50% of all people are below average intelligence (whether inherently stupid or uneducated doesn't matter, from a pragmatic point of view the result is the same)
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- kordless 11y agoYeah, I do. Simply say what you find inaccurate about what they said and let everyone else come to their own conclusions. Saying "stop spreading misinformation" is basically speaking for others. Maybe we want to hear the misinformation because it's interesting or maybe you are wrong about it being informational or not. Either way, it's my choice to listen to him/her or not.