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ionised 11y ago
Do you really have to ask after the last year or more of news? http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/08/snowden-council-of-europe-testimony/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/08/snowden-council-of-europe-t... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/22/gchq-surveillance-two-human-rights-groups-illegal-tribunal http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/22/gchq-surveill... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/20/gchq-targeted-aid-agencies-german-government-eu-commissioner http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/20/gchq-targeted... http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_spying_on_humanitarian_groups_like_unicef_medecins_du_monde.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/world/nsa-dragnet-included-allies-aid-groups-and-business-elite.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/world/nsa-dragnet-included... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-brazil-oil-petrobras http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-braz... I mean, these are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. I've got a pretty good record of everything leaked over the last year or so on my home computer.
- NullCharacter 11y ago
  Oh you mean an intelligence agency whose mission is foreign intelligence is gathering intelligence on foreign entities?
  - ionised 11y ago
    You just asked me for citations, implying that you didn't believe what I wrote. I gave you citations/articles and you reply with basically "Well, well... of course they do that!"
    - NullCharacter 11y ago
      For what it's worth, when you said "Civil liberties groups and charities... and allied politicians" I thought you were referring to domestic organizations/persons. Shrug.
      - qanael 11y ago
        Is that a meaningful distinction?
        NullCharacter 11y ago
        It is to a pragmatic person like me, but I suspect it's not to you.
        dimino 11y ago
        To the law? Yes, a huge one.
      - vitd 11y ago
        You mean like spying on our own senators [1]? [1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/11/is-the-cia-spying-on-congressional-computers-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/1...

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Do you really have to ask after the last year or more of news? http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/08/snowden-council-of-europe-testimony/ http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/08/snowden-council-of-europe-t... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/22/gchq-surveillance-two-human-rights-groups-illegal-tribunal http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/22/gchq-surveill... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/20/gchq-targeted-aid-agencies-german-government-eu-commissioner http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/20/gchq-targeted... http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_spying_on_humanitarian_groups_like_unicef_medecins_du_monde.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/world/nsa-dragnet-included-allies-aid-groups-and-business-elite.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/world/nsa-dragnet-included... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-brazil-oil-petrobras http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-braz... I mean, these are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. I've got a pretty good record of everything leaked over the last year or so on my home computer.

NullCharacter 11y ago
Oh you mean an intelligence agency whose mission is foreign intelligence is gathering intelligence on foreign entities?
- ionised 11y ago
  You just asked me for citations, implying that you didn't believe what I wrote. I gave you citations/articles and you reply with basically "Well, well... of course they do that!"
  - NullCharacter 11y ago
    For what it's worth, when you said "Civil liberties groups and charities... and allied politicians" I thought you were referring to domestic organizations/persons. Shrug.
    - qanael 11y ago
      Is that a meaningful distinction?
      - NullCharacter 11y ago
        It is to a pragmatic person like me, but I suspect it's not to you.
      - dimino 11y ago
        To the law? Yes, a huge one.
    - vitd 11y ago
      You mean like spying on our own senators [1]? [1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/11/is-the-cia-spying-on-congressional-computers-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/1...