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Hollywood is slowly decaying into irrelevance. This is a sign that they know their days are numbered. People are not going stop pirating, hell the whining and d

Hollywood is slowly decaying into irrelevance. This is a sign that they know their days are numbered. People are not going stop pirating, hell the whining and draconian measures to get people to stop pirating their movies makes me want to pirate the shit out of it even more. Plenty of video services like netflix, amazon prime are producing their own quality tv shows that exceed most of the crap movies we get. Everything is CG or some dumb plotline about sex. I'm sure films & tv shows will turn out from tech giants. I think if Google jumped in and began paying celebrities to star in their movies it could do well. I've always thought Hollywood to be a propaganda machine.

te_chris 11y ago
What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.
- tomjen3 11y ago
  Can we consider Game of Thrones to be the most popular tv show currently? From the wiki: >Filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Northern Ireland, Croatia, Iceland, Morocco, Spain, Malta, Scotland, and the United States, So it does not come from Hollywood. HBO is owned by Time Werner, but operate independently. So neither the physical production place nor the company that made it screams hollywood. As for the Netflix only stuff, it is owned by Netflix.
  - gcb0 11y ago
    the hobbit was filmed on new Zealand... by Hollywood. who gave NZ a new thematic airport (it's like entering the shire) and in exchange for the airport and the movie production taxes got the head of kim dotcom on a tray.
  - ucaetano 11y ago
    Filmed on location doesn't mean not from Hollywood. Hollywood isn't just the actual physical sets in LA, it's the entire industry. HoC, GoT, all come from Hollywood. Heck, even GRRM was a screenwriter for Hollywood. The creators of GoT are also from Hollywood (Troy, Kite Runner, the awful X-Men Origins: Wolverine, etc.) and the show is run by Warner-owned HBO.
- icebraining 11y ago
  By Hollywood, people here mean the big studios/distributors, that is, the companies who provide the cash, not the production companies that film the stuff.
  - justwannasing 11y ago
    So, iow, Hollywood. People forget or don't know that Hollywood is the Silicon Valley of films. You need a special effect? There's a guy down the street who can do that. You need a special lens or lighting? You can rent that, today, for a hundred bucks at the shop around the corner. That's why films, and the people who make them, congregate in Hollywood.
    - icebraining 11y ago
      The guy down the street is not a big studio/distributor providing the cash. As I said, people aren't talking about Hollywood-the-place. It's a metonym, like "Wall Street" and "Fleet Street", and in this case it's specifically about a few companies (mainly the MPAA members).
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    Through a system of billing specifically set up to make the production company end up deep in the red while the big "studio" rakes in the profits. AKA Hollywood accounting. The system is rotten to the core, and copyright as a concept has been broken since the day someone could drop a couple of 100s on the table and walk out the door with the digital equivalent of a printing press. Copyright basically hinges on the act of copying being a laborious process, involving large machinery and man-hours. This because such requirements make all acts of copying for profit activities, to recoup the costs of the copying. But when producing one additional copy is a case of ctrl-c ctrl-v, calculating the cost heads into "angels on the head of a pin" territory.
    - bediger4000 11y ago
      Copyright died the year that xerox machines got installed in public and college libraries. Everything since then has been attempts to unring a bell, and maybe stuff a genie back into a lamp.
- tremon 11y ago
  > Where does the most popular television [and] film content come from? Elstree.
mc808 11y ago
The threat to Hollywood goes deeper than piracy. Within a few years, video games will be generating photo-realistic feature films on demand, with unique scripts and characters and worlds adapted to the viewer's tastes and mood. Game/movie publishers won't have to worry as much about piracy because they will be selling the service, not the content. (But upload your personalized movie to YouTube and they can monetize that, too.)
- scrollaway 11y ago
  > Within a few years, video games will be generating photo-realistic feature films on demand, with unique scripts and characters and worlds adapted to the viewer's tastes and mood. You're vastly underestimating the work that goes into an authentic hollywood movie. Also, vastly overestimating the quality of video game 3d engines, the performance requirements, the potential plot quality resulting from player-driven storylines, and so on.
  - Retric 11y ago
    The best Games are already higher quality than toy story one (1995). Both in terms of graphics and plot ex Witcher III. Game studios already make more money than Hollywood so long term Hollywood is in a death spiral.
    - ascagnel_ 11y ago
      I disagree on both counts. Even looking at The Witcher 3 running at its highest settings, the human characters are not photo-realistic. The game itself doesn't look like something that was captured on a camera; the output includes blur filters that look impressive but unrealistic (Toy Story isn't a good measuring stick, since it's not trying to be photo-realistic; something like the 2007 Beowulf movie would be a better comparison against live-action). The biggest games aren't as profitable as movies today. Right now, there's about 35MM consoles capable of playing The Witcher 3 (PS4 and X1). Avengers: Age of Ultron passed $1 billion this summer. For TW3 to match its sales numbers, they'd have to sell roughly 16.7MM copies at $60. Almost half the number of console owners would have to buy this game at full-price for it's revenue number to be the same (yes, the PC market will have an impact, but that's harder to measure, but that market tends to be smaller than the consoles).

te_chris 11y ago

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

tomjen3 11y ago
Can we consider Game of Thrones to be the most popular tv show currently? From the wiki: >Filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Northern Ireland, Croatia, Iceland, Morocco, Spain, Malta, Scotland, and the United States, So it does not come from Hollywood. HBO is owned by Time Werner, but operate independently. So neither the physical production place nor the company that made it screams hollywood. As for the Netflix only stuff, it is owned by Netflix.
- gcb0 11y ago
  the hobbit was filmed on new Zealand... by Hollywood. who gave NZ a new thematic airport (it's like entering the shire) and in exchange for the airport and the movie production taxes got the head of kim dotcom on a tray.
- ucaetano 11y ago
  Filmed on location doesn't mean not from Hollywood. Hollywood isn't just the actual physical sets in LA, it's the entire industry. HoC, GoT, all come from Hollywood. Heck, even GRRM was a screenwriter for Hollywood. The creators of GoT are also from Hollywood (Troy, Kite Runner, the awful X-Men Origins: Wolverine, etc.) and the show is run by Warner-owned HBO.
icebraining 11y ago
By Hollywood, people here mean the big studios/distributors, that is, the companies who provide the cash, not the production companies that film the stuff.
- justwannasing 11y ago
  So, iow, Hollywood. People forget or don't know that Hollywood is the Silicon Valley of films. You need a special effect? There's a guy down the street who can do that. You need a special lens or lighting? You can rent that, today, for a hundred bucks at the shop around the corner. That's why films, and the people who make them, congregate in Hollywood.
  - icebraining 11y ago
    The guy down the street is not a big studio/distributor providing the cash. As I said, people aren't talking about Hollywood-the-place. It's a metonym, like "Wall Street" and "Fleet Street", and in this case it's specifically about a few companies (mainly the MPAA members).
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Through a system of billing specifically set up to make the production company end up deep in the red while the big "studio" rakes in the profits. AKA Hollywood accounting. The system is rotten to the core, and copyright as a concept has been broken since the day someone could drop a couple of 100s on the table and walk out the door with the digital equivalent of a printing press. Copyright basically hinges on the act of copying being a laborious process, involving large machinery and man-hours. This because such requirements make all acts of copying for profit activities, to recoup the costs of the copying. But when producing one additional copy is a case of ctrl-c ctrl-v, calculating the cost heads into "angels on the head of a pin" territory.
  - bediger4000 11y ago
    Copyright died the year that xerox machines got installed in public and college libraries. Everything since then has been attempts to unring a bell, and maybe stuff a genie back into a lamp.
tremon 11y ago
> Where does the most popular television [and] film content come from? Elstree.

mc808 11y ago

The threat to Hollywood goes deeper than piracy. Within a few years, video games will be generating photo-realistic feature films on demand, with unique scripts and characters and worlds adapted to the viewer's tastes and mood. Game/movie publishers won't have to worry as much about piracy because they will be selling the service, not the content. (But upload your personalized movie to YouTube and they can monetize that, too.)

scrollaway 11y ago
> Within a few years, video games will be generating photo-realistic feature films on demand, with unique scripts and characters and worlds adapted to the viewer's tastes and mood. You're vastly underestimating the work that goes into an authentic hollywood movie. Also, vastly overestimating the quality of video game 3d engines, the performance requirements, the potential plot quality resulting from player-driven storylines, and so on.
- Retric 11y ago
  The best Games are already higher quality than toy story one (1995). Both in terms of graphics and plot ex Witcher III. Game studios already make more money than Hollywood so long term Hollywood is in a death spiral.
  - ascagnel_ 11y ago
    I disagree on both counts. Even looking at The Witcher 3 running at its highest settings, the human characters are not photo-realistic. The game itself doesn't look like something that was captured on a camera; the output includes blur filters that look impressive but unrealistic (Toy Story isn't a good measuring stick, since it's not trying to be photo-realistic; something like the 2007 Beowulf movie would be a better comparison against live-action). The biggest games aren't as profitable as movies today. Right now, there's about 35MM consoles capable of playing The Witcher 3 (PS4 and X1). Avengers: Age of Ultron passed $1 billion this summer. For TW3 to match its sales numbers, they'd have to sell roughly 16.7MM copies at $60. Almost half the number of console owners would have to buy this game at full-price for it's revenue number to be the same (yes, the PC market will have an impact, but that's harder to measure, but that market tends to be smaller than the consoles).