> but it would have been nice to see some real metric instead of some napkin graphs That's roughly why software engineering isn't really engineering. We're too

> but it would have been nice to see some real metric instead of some napkin graphs That's roughly why software engineering isn't really engineering. We're too cool for quantification. We feel that we don't need to give solid metrics to justify investment on what we think is cool. But, boy, if management asks us something that we don't like, then they'll have to handle solid and quantifiable evidence on the utility of it.