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I'd argue that it's not that easy to "ban" something by getting the UN to say so, or even getting conventional treaties signed. First, the nations have to ratif

by zo1 11y ago

I'd argue that it's not that easy to "ban" something by getting the UN to say so, or even getting conventional treaties signed. First, the nations have to ratify it. And even if they do, they have to abide by it. Here are some random examples that I googled-for off the top of my head where these treaties, laws and the UN have failed. Torture: http://www.cfr.org/international-law/united-states-geneva-conventions/p11485#p7 http://www.cfr.org/international-law/united-states-geneva-co... Tear Gas: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/14/tear-gas-is-a-chemical-weapon-banned-in-war-but-ferguson-police-shoot-it-at-protesters/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/14... Kyoto Protocol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol Extrajudicial Killings in Drone Strikes: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/21/drone-strikes-international-law-un http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/21/drone-strikes-i...

ectoplasm 11y ago
Yeah, you'd need a fully functional global judicial system that included a police force to make UN regulations stick.
- nahumfarchi 11y ago
  hmm... maybe a fully functional autonomous weapons police force?
  - ectoplasm 11y ago
    Is that you Skynet?
vonmoltke 11y ago
> Tear Gas: Your linked article specifically stated tear gas was still legal for police use under the CWC. An expert rightly points out that this is illogical (and I agree), but it is not a failure. Also, I should point out that the mace and pepper spray canisters that many people around the world carry for personal protection are also illegal chemical weapons under the CWC if used in combat. There is a whole lot more illogic and inconsistency to be found between what is legal in something arbitrarily defined as "war" and otherwise, if one delves deep enough into the various treaties and conventions.

by zo1 11y ago

ectoplasm 11y ago

Yeah, you'd need a fully functional global judicial system that included a police force to make UN regulations stick.

nahumfarchi 11y ago
hmm... maybe a fully functional autonomous weapons police force?
- ectoplasm 11y ago
  Is that you Skynet?

vonmoltke 11y ago

> Tear Gas: Your linked article specifically stated tear gas was still legal for police use under the CWC. An expert rightly points out that this is illogical (and I agree), but it is not a failure. Also, I should point out that the mace and pepper spray canisters that many people around the world carry for personal protection are also illegal chemical weapons under the CWC if used in combat. There is a whole lot more illogic and inconsistency to be found between what is legal in something arbitrarily defined as "war" and otherwise, if one delves deep enough into the various treaties and conventions.