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Fairly certain the LEDs he was talking about were the turn-lane indicators, that warn a turning car if a bicyclist is on the way. That's kind of amazing, and wo

Fairly certain the LEDs he was talking about were the turn-lane indicators, that warn a turning car if a bicyclist is on the way. That's kind of amazing, and would potentially do wonders in a city like NYC. We already have some separated bicycle lanes (with obstructions between the cyclers and the autos), separate bike traffic lights, but only in a very few spots (8th avenue has a large stretch). One of these days I'll get one.. :) Also, if you watch the video he mentions that it's taken thirty some odd years to build out this infrastructure, and that it used to be a much more car-centric city.

TravisLS 17y ago
The other thing that NYC would do well to implement was the so-called "green highway". I bike to work every day and find that our separated bike lanes have longer and more frequent red lights than the lanes given to cars (we have a red light when they have a green light + left turn arrow). Most of the people who bike frequently in the city actually avoid the separated bike lanes because of the poor traffic light timing.
- thefool 17y ago
  Yes, that I think is the best of the social engineering ideas presented in that video, its also one of the easiest for the city to implement in terms of infrastructure. You would make a lot of people mad by doing it though.
  - warfangle 17y ago
    There's already so much bicycle-hate in this city (mainly towards couriers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHRnA780WM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHRnA780WM ), that I can imagine it getting out of hand. Most of the people it would effect are cab drivers/drivers-for-hire and delivery trucks/vans. Everyone else who drives daily in the city is, imho, an asshole ;)
mseebach 17y ago
> turn-lane indicators Never seen those, but sounds cool. > it's taken thirty some odd years to build out this infrastructure Exactly - but the story is framed like "look, this city built this for a purpose, and it worked, now you do the same in your cities" when I believe the real story is that a bike-happy population worked with a willing city to slowly evolve an infrastructure with mutual benefits.

TravisLS 17y ago

The other thing that NYC would do well to implement was the so-called "green highway". I bike to work every day and find that our separated bike lanes have longer and more frequent red lights than the lanes given to cars (we have a red light when they have a green light + left turn arrow). Most of the people who bike frequently in the city actually avoid the separated bike lanes because of the poor traffic light timing.

thefool 17y ago
Yes, that I think is the best of the social engineering ideas presented in that video, its also one of the easiest for the city to implement in terms of infrastructure. You would make a lot of people mad by doing it though.
- warfangle 17y ago
  There's already so much bicycle-hate in this city (mainly towards couriers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHRnA780WM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHRnA780WM ), that I can imagine it getting out of hand. Most of the people it would effect are cab drivers/drivers-for-hire and delivery trucks/vans. Everyone else who drives daily in the city is, imho, an asshole ;)

mseebach 17y ago

> turn-lane indicators Never seen those, but sounds cool. > it's taken thirty some odd years to build out this infrastructure Exactly - but the story is framed like "look, this city built this for a purpose, and it worked, now you do the same in your cities" when I believe the real story is that a bike-happy population worked with a willing city to slowly evolve an infrastructure with mutual benefits.