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> what used to be the VS 2012/13 Professional edition is now the VS 2015 Community edition which is now free Not true. If you are using Visual Studio professi

> what used to be the VS 2012/13 Professional edition is now the VS 2015 Community edition which is now free Not true. If you are using Visual Studio professionally, rather than for your own personal educational tinkering, then you're only eligible for Community if your company has less than $1 million in revenue. In almost twenty years, I have never worked for a company that would qualify for that condition (and this includes multiple startups). Even if your company is small enough to qualify, then no more than 5 developers are allowed to use Community at once. See section 1(b): https://www.visualstudio.com/support/legal/mt171547 https://www.visualstudio.com/support/legal/mt171547 If you are currently using Community for professional work... then either you're an independent freelancer, or else are working for the absolute tiniest of unprofitable companies, or else are violating Microsoft's license terms because you don't understand what they are (like most people, it seems). Visual Studio Professional is very much still a SKU (https://www.visualstudio.com/vs-2015-product-editions https://www.visualstudio.com/vs-2015-product-editions).

dragonwriter 11y ago
> If you are using Visual Studio professionally, rather than for your own personal educational tinkering, then you're only eligible for Community if your company has less than $1 million in revenue. Or if it, as many companies with more than $1 million in revenue do, develops open source software. > If you are currently using Community for professional work... then either you're an independent freelancer, or else are working for the absolute tiniest of unprofitable companies, or else are violating Microsoft's license terms because you don't understand what they are. Or you are a professional developer working on software which is licensed under an OSI-approved open-source license.
- StevePerkins 11y ago
  Yes, yes, Richard Stallman... I saw your other reply already. :) While a valid point, surely you would acknowledge that it is a fairly small niche case? I imagine that overwhelmingly, the more common scenario is people using Community to work on non-open source software, simply because they don't fully understand the license terms (or don't care).
mythz 11y ago
> then either you're an independent freelancer, or else are working for the absolute tiniest of unprofitable companies No it just means your Startup has <$1M Revenue - there are a number of early Startups that comfortably fit within that threshold.
_pmf_ 11y ago
The myth that Community Edition is suitable for general commercial work is shockingly strong.

dragonwriter 11y ago

> If you are using Visual Studio professionally, rather than for your own personal educational tinkering, then you're only eligible for Community if your company has less than $1 million in revenue. Or if it, as many companies with more than $1 million in revenue do, develops open source software. > If you are currently using Community for professional work... then either you're an independent freelancer, or else are working for the absolute tiniest of unprofitable companies, or else are violating Microsoft's license terms because you don't understand what they are. Or you are a professional developer working on software which is licensed under an OSI-approved open-source license.

StevePerkins 11y ago
Yes, yes, Richard Stallman... I saw your other reply already. :) While a valid point, surely you would acknowledge that it is a fairly small niche case? I imagine that overwhelmingly, the more common scenario is people using Community to work on non-open source software, simply because they don't fully understand the license terms (or don't care).

mythz 11y ago

> then either you're an independent freelancer, or else are working for the absolute tiniest of unprofitable companies No it just means your Startup has <$1M Revenue - there are a number of early Startups that comfortably fit within that threshold.

_pmf_ 11y ago

The myth that Community Edition is suitable for general commercial work is shockingly strong.