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Exactly. Pleople here should compare this against early Android/iOS, not with their 2015 version. We should always support open/libre projects, as they makes u

by _lce0 11y ago

Exactly. Pleople here should compare this against early Android/iOS, not with their 2015 version. We should always support open/libre projects, as they makes us all richer, even if you dont directly use (or like) them Cant wait to have a REAL linux in my pocket

dzhiurgis 11y ago
I don't think people need Linux, but solid web applications support. Web will always win, yet now web apps on phones still suck. We try to wrap them into hybrid, but I think centralised distribution model is temporary solution. I think we need a way to easily switch between fullscreen tabs, navigation between tabs and solid hardware acceleration for web stack.
- wvh 11y ago
  I'm not sure you can guarantee a great user experience on a free, open web with user privacy and choice on a device you don't have rights to because it's completely locked down beyond your control by the vendor. There should be a way to run a device that's not controlled by Google, Apple or Microsoft; not just because you're "paranoid", but because you'd like to learn and contribute, and maybe come up with some cool ideas yourself. Point in case, because it's open-source, you could work on those browser features you'd like to see on mobile systems.
cwyers 11y ago
> Pleople here should compare this against early Android/iOS, not with their 2015 version. Why's that? Android and iOS are available in their 2015 versions right now.
phogg 11y ago
There's no need to wait: the n900 was real Linux (with X, apt-get and anything you could want) as was the n9. If Nokia hadn't scrapped the n9 virtually as soon as it was finished it would be a serious competitor right now. The experience, speaking as an n9 user who eventually moved to Android, was much more pleasant on the n9. The only problem was limited app selection.
- walterbell 11y ago
  Did you consider Jolla/Sailfish?
- chei0aiV 11y ago
  There is a real successor to the N900 called Neo900: http://neo900.org/ http://neo900.org/ Still in development but some really cool stuff like isolation of the modem.

by _lce0 11y ago

dzhiurgis 11y ago

I don't think people need Linux, but solid web applications support. Web will always win, yet now web apps on phones still suck. We try to wrap them into hybrid, but I think centralised distribution model is temporary solution. I think we need a way to easily switch between fullscreen tabs, navigation between tabs and solid hardware acceleration for web stack.

wvh 11y ago
I'm not sure you can guarantee a great user experience on a free, open web with user privacy and choice on a device you don't have rights to because it's completely locked down beyond your control by the vendor. There should be a way to run a device that's not controlled by Google, Apple or Microsoft; not just because you're "paranoid", but because you'd like to learn and contribute, and maybe come up with some cool ideas yourself. Point in case, because it's open-source, you could work on those browser features you'd like to see on mobile systems.

cwyers 11y ago

> Pleople here should compare this against early Android/iOS, not with their 2015 version. Why's that? Android and iOS are available in their 2015 versions right now.

phogg 11y ago

There's no need to wait: the n900 was real Linux (with X, apt-get and anything you could want) as was the n9. If Nokia hadn't scrapped the n9 virtually as soon as it was finished it would be a serious competitor right now. The experience, speaking as an n9 user who eventually moved to Android, was much more pleasant on the n9. The only problem was limited app selection.

walterbell 11y ago
Did you consider Jolla/Sailfish?
chei0aiV 11y ago
There is a real successor to the N900 called Neo900: http://neo900.org/ http://neo900.org/ Still in development but some really cool stuff like isolation of the modem.