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Maybe contribute to it then? :) Disclaimer: I contribute to kde.

RivieraKid 11y ago
I've been actually thinking about creating a new desktop environment (or a whole desktop platform ala Android if I had more time). Because there's a lot of space for improvement and innovation on (not only) Linux desktop. But this is not the case for mobile IMHO. As for contributing to KDE, it's not as fun as starting a new project, things move slowly, you have limited options of what you can do and I just generally don't agree with the mentality / philosophy / culture of the KDE project.
- emilsedgh 11y ago
  I just generally don't agree with the mentality / philosophy / culture of the KDE project. Mind if I ask what do you dislike about it? Or what is your perception of the mentality/culture?
  - RivieraKid 11y ago
    Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" Also, they seem to lack design taste.
    - jbk 11y ago
      > Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. So, in the end, you're just a troll. You have no facts, no knowledge, no reference but just your "feelings" about "bloat"; and you keep spitting on KDE's work. I'm quite sure you've not used KDE since a long time.
      - RivieraKid 11y ago
        Troll is someone who deliberately tries to upset people, provoke a response, without really caring about the topic. You really think that's the motivation behind my comments? UX is all about feelings and intuition by the way. Designing user interfaces is mostly trying to make users feel good while they're using it.
    - emilsedgh 11y ago
      "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" That's not how it happens. It happens like this: Person 1 creates something. Person 2 wants slightly different behavior and provides a patch to make it configurable. And you know what? Its not a bad thing. My KDE is heavily configured and you have no idea how productive it is for me. I love it :)
- shadeslayer 11y ago
  > ... things move slowly ... Why do you think things move slowly? KDE releases Frameworks 5 every month, and Plasma 5 every 3 months, that's pretty fast in my opinion.
  - RivieraKid 11y ago
    Slowly compared to working on a new project from scratch. You can't change the deep, fundumantal things in a big project easily.
    - jbk 11y ago
      Great, so please show us your work on a project from scratch. You seem so good at criticizing and explaining that you'd do better. Please show us!
      - RivieraKid 11y ago
        I designed and developed an app from scratch that users loved (4.9 avg rating, over 10k ratings) and that won a UX award. Not linking it to stay pseudonymous.
- jbk 11y ago
  > I've been actually thinking about creating a new desktop environment Stop thinking and actually do and ship! You keep complaining and say you know better, then show us!

I've been actually thinking about creating a new desktop environment (or a whole desktop platform ala Android if I had more time). Because there's a lot of space for improvement and innovation on (not only) Linux desktop. But this is not the case for mobile IMHO. As for contributing to KDE, it's not as fun as starting a new project, things move slowly, you have limited options of what you can do and I just generally don't agree with the mentality / philosophy / culture of the KDE project.

emilsedgh 11y ago
I just generally don't agree with the mentality / philosophy / culture of the KDE project. Mind if I ask what do you dislike about it? Or what is your perception of the mentality/culture?
- RivieraKid 11y ago
  Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" Also, they seem to lack design taste.
  - jbk 11y ago
    > Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. So, in the end, you're just a troll. You have no facts, no knowledge, no reference but just your "feelings" about "bloat"; and you keep spitting on KDE's work. I'm quite sure you've not used KDE since a long time.
    - RivieraKid 11y ago
      Troll is someone who deliberately tries to upset people, provoke a response, without really caring about the topic. You really think that's the motivation behind my comments? UX is all about feelings and intuition by the way. Designing user interfaces is mostly trying to make users feel good while they're using it.
  - emilsedgh 11y ago
    "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" That's not how it happens. It happens like this: Person 1 creates something. Person 2 wants slightly different behavior and provides a patch to make it configurable. And you know what? Its not a bad thing. My KDE is heavily configured and you have no idea how productive it is for me. I love it :)
shadeslayer 11y ago
> ... things move slowly ... Why do you think things move slowly? KDE releases Frameworks 5 every month, and Plasma 5 every 3 months, that's pretty fast in my opinion.
- RivieraKid 11y ago
  Slowly compared to working on a new project from scratch. You can't change the deep, fundumantal things in a big project easily.
  - jbk 11y ago
    Great, so please show us your work on a project from scratch. You seem so good at criticizing and explaining that you'd do better. Please show us!
    - RivieraKid 11y ago
      I designed and developed an app from scratch that users loved (4.9 avg rating, over 10k ratings) and that won a UX award. Not linking it to stay pseudonymous.
jbk 11y ago
> I've been actually thinking about creating a new desktop environment Stop thinking and actually do and ship! You keep complaining and say you know better, then show us!