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Look I doubt anyone very high up at MS knows of this and when they do you might be able to get some scratch out of this. They're really going to have 3 ways to
by mikeryan 17y ago
Look I doubt anyone very high up at MS knows of this and when they do you might be able to get some scratch out of this.
They're really going to have 3 ways to deal with this.
1. pull down the existing site while they retool.
2. Pay you a licensing fee while the rewrite from scratch.
3. Do nothing and get a ton of bad press
See if you can get 1 or 2 and maybe make some money off the deal.
- ericb 17y agoYou forgot 4. Buy you out.
- jf 17y agoI just started working for Microsoft so that I can be a voice inside the company for startups. I'm forwarding this thread to my legal contact.
- eob 17y agoWas that really the prime motivator in joining MS? How do you mean "be a voice for startups"? Cool. People usually cite this reasoning for joining the government -- an organization whose mandate is toward the greater good of its people, but I've never heard it applied toward a corporate entity, whose mandate is solely profit. Would you mind posting a bit more about your motivations and thinking? I would really like to hear.
- clemesha 17y agoHere's some more info: http://jf.posterous.com/after-5-years-of-using-linux-and-mac-os-x-ive http://jf.posterous.com/after-5-years-of-using-linux-and-mac...
- abossy 17y agoJoel sounds like he's replacing Don Dodge.
- robryan 17y agoSounds like a better role though, not necessarily pushing Microsoft products.
- gcb 17y agotwo months from here he will realise that the VPs expect him to know from startups why they aren't using IIS.
- dhs 17y agoSo Microsoft VPs want to find out why people do not accept their products. Could be a good thing, if they would then insist on improvement of the products guided by the data that the "dev evangelist" provides. You, though, make it sound like it's a bad thing. Care to explain?
- jf 17y agoI've already started to have conversations inside Microsoft about why startups in the Silicon Valley don't want (or need) to use Microsoft products.
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- jf 17y agoI was not hired to replace Don Dodge. I was hired because the person who previously held my role moved internally. I actually don't know much about Don Dodge - I haven't met him yet. All that I know is that he is well liked and respected. I can only hope to earn a similar level of respect from the startup community.
- thefool 17y agowere you hired, or were you moved internally? Its cool that they have someone devoted to worrying about these issues.
- netcan 17y agoWhat an excellent place to start (this thread/problem). This certainly requires some diplomacy.
- tptacek 17y agoA reasonable person might conclude that they could have more influence over the industry in 4 years at Microsoft than in 2-3 more small startups.
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- FreeRadical 17y agoCool, I hope you keep visiting HN often to stay in touch with the start up scene here.
- UncleOxidant 17y ago4. Microsoft could buy Plurk to save face.
- betterlabs 17y agoI agree. Its highly unlikely that this was done on purpose with complete transparency to higher management. But I still wonder how the manager or the manager's manager of the project didn't see this happening. I am pretty sure the team and their 1 or 2 levels up researched plurk and its success in the region enough to recognize that it was copied. The product manager could not have missed this. I am sure a lot of people are under fire for this.