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I worked at a company for about five years. It became a unicorn while I worked there and I saw the value of my initial grant increase tremendously (something li
by ryan-c 11y ago
I worked at a company for about five years. It became a unicorn while I worked there and I saw the value of my initial grant increase tremendously (something like 35x) over the years. I was significantly in debt and very nearly out of savings when I started there, so early exercise, while available, was not affordable to me. By the time I had money to exercise my shares, the potential AMT liability plus lack of liquidity made it unrealistic to do so. If I left, I'd lose it all. I ended up feeling held hostage by loss aversion. It was not good for my mental health. Feeling stuck can make an otherwise awesome job terrible.
I was very lucky - when I left I was able to just barely cover exercising everything by liquidating my non-retirement investments and savings, then sell enough on the secondary market (which took many nerve wracking months) to cover the AMT bill, pay myself back and set aside enough to pay the tax bills for selling shares.
Very much "Silicon Valley Problems", and I don't expect much, if any, sympathy - especially since I had a good outcome. I'd just like to see the AMT rules changed to make it easier on employees who don't have the luxury of liquidity.
- mune_write4 11y agoFace it tech-tards - the founders "own" you like vassal, and can burn the stock to send you into the poor house for the next ten lifetimes! hahahaha
- robotresearcher 11y agoCash is very cheap right now, and has been for several years. Is it difficult or expensive to obtain loans to cover these expenses against the shares themselves?
- mahyarm 11y agoIt's very difficult, and not recommended unless they are ESO fund style loans, where you don't pay anything if the stock goes to zero. People did similar shit as getting HELOC loans in the dot com bubble, and it did not turn out well for them at all. Cash is cheap for a few large banks and other organizations rolling in money. Not for the middle class / upper middle class employee. Capital losses are only allowed to offset your normal taxes by a small amount in the USA. Also companies drag their feet in getting you the proper documents that you might be missing. It can take months and those 2-3 months later, ESO isn't interested anymore. It's happened to me.