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(French here.) I guess this is time to escalate. Let's encrypt as much as we can. And maybe prepare for physical violence. This may get ugly in a few years.

HugoDaniel 11y ago
bastille needs to go down again
leap_ahead 11y ago
From what I heard French are obliged to surrender encryption keys at the request of authorities or go to jail for a few years for denying their request. The only thing that may be left is to pack your things and go.
- stzup7 11y ago
  Correct. http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070719&idArticle=LEGIARTI000006418646&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=...
  - martius 11y ago
    You don't have to surrender the key, but you are required to at least decrypt things for the authorities. However, I the twist seems to be in the word "susceptible": any encryption key is susceptible to be somehow used to commit a crime, while on the other hand a jury would probably "deny a request" of the authorities if they can't show enough evidences.
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  So what happens if you don't know, forgotten, or never had the encryption key?
needs 11y ago
> And maybe prepare for physical violence. This may get ugly in a few years. French here too... This law is sad but keep in mind that our justice is still the only place where they makes sense. Overall, our country is still a great place to live.
- loup-vaillant 11y ago
  Haven't left yet. :-) But I can't help but agree with Benjamin Bayart's analysis: we are currently living 3 major crises at the same time: the end of free energy (we are at peak oil already), the ecological crisis (worse than the one that destroyed the dinosaurs), and the internet (which fundamentally changes the way we communicate, and that our power structures). I don't see how we can resolve this peacefully. If there's a solution, we'd better think of it real fast.

HugoDaniel 11y ago

bastille needs to go down again

leap_ahead 11y ago

From what I heard French are obliged to surrender encryption keys at the request of authorities or go to jail for a few years for denying their request. The only thing that may be left is to pack your things and go.

stzup7 11y ago
Correct. http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070719&idArticle=LEGIARTI000006418646&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=...
- martius 11y ago
  You don't have to surrender the key, but you are required to at least decrypt things for the authorities. However, I the twist seems to be in the word "susceptible": any encryption key is susceptible to be somehow used to commit a crime, while on the other hand a jury would probably "deny a request" of the authorities if they can't show enough evidences.
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
So what happens if you don't know, forgotten, or never had the encryption key?

needs 11y ago

> And maybe prepare for physical violence. This may get ugly in a few years. French here too... This law is sad but keep in mind that our justice is still the only place where they makes sense. Overall, our country is still a great place to live.

loup-vaillant 11y ago
Haven't left yet. :-) But I can't help but agree with Benjamin Bayart's analysis: we are currently living 3 major crises at the same time: the end of free energy (we are at peak oil already), the ecological crisis (worse than the one that destroyed the dinosaurs), and the internet (which fundamentally changes the way we communicate, and that our power structures). I don't see how we can resolve this peacefully. If there's a solution, we'd better think of it real fast.