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The switch from older (VB6, etc) model to .NET could be compared to the switch from Python 2 to 3, only MS didn't wuss out and actually made the braking change

by jevgeni 11y ago

The switch from older (VB6, etc) model to .NET could be compared to the switch from Python 2 to 3, only MS didn't wuss out and actually made the braking change instead of dragging everything out. You can call it "stabbing". I'd call it "necessary progress". Just because an ecosystem is large doesn't mean it's good. I once tried to switch the automation in our team from batch files to Ruby. Huge mistake. Try finding any Ruby gem that: works, has the functionality you need, is well documented, and doesn't rely on Rails (honestly, I don't want to load a whole web framework to figure out a recurring schedule). Went with Powershell in the end and never looked back.

craigmcnamara 11y ago
It sounds like you just don't know how to use Ruby and Rake. Rake doesn't depend on Rails and is a system for automating things and resolving dependencies. It's also cross platform(Mac, Linux and Windows) and has plenty of Books, Blogs and documentation. It sounds like you got scared of something you didn't know how to use. I started Ruby with a weekend of study and a background in C++ and Java, and I've been doing it for 7 years. When you try new things, try harder.
bsder 11y ago
> The switch from older (VB6, etc) model to .NET could be compared to the switch from Python 2 to 3, only MS didn't wuss out and actually made the braking change instead of dragging everything out. You can call it "stabbing". I'd call it "necessary progress". To what end? There were billions of lines of VB6 code that got orphaned (possibly trillions). Lots of businesses simply stopped at WinXP/VB6 for this reason--I suspect this is more responsible for the continued existence of XP than anything else (hardware drivers are probably the other). So, we now have obsolete code along with security nightmares frozen in amber and in return Microsoft killed their developer ecosystem and lost a bunch of revenue because people simply stopped in place or moved to non-Microsoft ecosystems. Who benefited? I'm sure some manager got great numbers for a a year or two while some fraction of the developers had to upgrade. Of course, nobody measured how many developers were lost in that transition.

by jevgeni 11y ago

craigmcnamara 11y ago

It sounds like you just don't know how to use Ruby and Rake. Rake doesn't depend on Rails and is a system for automating things and resolving dependencies. It's also cross platform(Mac, Linux and Windows) and has plenty of Books, Blogs and documentation. It sounds like you got scared of something you didn't know how to use. I started Ruby with a weekend of study and a background in C++ and Java, and I've been doing it for 7 years. When you try new things, try harder.

bsder 11y ago

> The switch from older (VB6, etc) model to .NET could be compared to the switch from Python 2 to 3, only MS didn't wuss out and actually made the braking change instead of dragging everything out. You can call it "stabbing". I'd call it "necessary progress". To what end? There were billions of lines of VB6 code that got orphaned (possibly trillions). Lots of businesses simply stopped at WinXP/VB6 for this reason--I suspect this is more responsible for the continued existence of XP than anything else (hardware drivers are probably the other). So, we now have obsolete code along with security nightmares frozen in amber and in return Microsoft killed their developer ecosystem and lost a bunch of revenue because people simply stopped in place or moved to non-Microsoft ecosystems. Who benefited? I'm sure some manager got great numbers for a a year or two while some fraction of the developers had to upgrade. Of course, nobody measured how many developers were lost in that transition.