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I'm skeptical too. "The experts", e.g. HBGary, get pwned worse than having a bunch of crapware on their desktop, but it's for the same types of mistakes: "So
by scintill76 11y ago
I'm skeptical too. "The experts", e.g. HBGary, get pwned worse than having a bunch of crapware on their desktop, but it's for the same types of mistakes:
"So what do we have in total? A Web application with SQL injection flaws and insecure passwords. Passwords that were badly chosen. Passwords that were reused. Servers that allowed password-based authentication. Systems that weren't patched. And an astonishing willingness to hand out credentials over e-mail, even when the person being asked for them should have realized something was up. [...]
Most frustrating for HBGary must be the knowledge that they know what they did wrong, and they were perfectly aware of best practices; they just didn't actually use them. Everybody knows you don't use easy-to-crack passwords, but some employees did. Everybody knows you don't re-use passwords, but some of them did. Everybody knows that you should patch servers to keep them free of known security flaws, but they didn't." [1]
Granted, this doesn't prove that experts are generally unsafe, and maybe somebody with a beef with these ones in particular would say they're just semi-knowledgeable salesmen cashing in on the cyber scare, but it lends some weight to the idea that too many experts aren't much safer.
[1] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-...
- pixl97 11y agoExperts in what? Where I work the actual IT staff/server admins are pretty safe. They update, patch, and in general choose good passwords. The programmers... ugh, good lord. They have the worst practices ever.
- scintill76 11y agoWell, my example of HBGary was chosen because they were a firm specializing in computer security. But, as shown by Ars Technica (or claimed by Anonymous) they had some pretty bad security failures themselves. You do have a point about programmers, or to generalize a bit, people who are more technically-inclined than average but who don't care/know about security. I shake my head seeing things like people flashing community-built Android ROMs with signature checks disabled, closed-source rooting tools, sideloaded APKs downloaded from dubious filesharing sites, "curl http://whatever http://whatever | sh".