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This page is substantially unchanged since 2004.[1] There are a lot of technologies missing from that list! But that's the cool part -- when you think of how

by gamache 11y ago

This page is substantially unchanged since 2004.[1] There are a lot of technologies missing from that list! But that's the cool part -- when you think of how many modern languages and packages could be on that list, it really drives home how much FP is eating the world. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20040604130605/http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/realworld/ https://web.archive.org/web/20040604130605/http://homepages....

dang 11y ago
In fact, 2003: https://web.archive.org/web/20031025102825/http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/realworld/ https://web.archive.org/web/20031025102825/http://homepages..... We'll add the year to the title—thanks.
- jcr 11y ago
  Wow, I totally missed the age of this page since I was also reading his main home page which is maintained: http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/ Would it be worthwhile to change the link?
  - dang 11y ago
    I don't think so. It's fine with the date added.
zzalpha 11y ago
"Eating the world"? Methinks a little bit of exaggeration/echo chamber effect at play, here. http://langpop.com/ http://langpop.com/ Coldfusion, of all things, ranks ahead of the first pure functional language on that list (Haskell). Scala, the next highest impure but strongly functional language, ranks behind Visual Basic and Delphi. Or, from another (more recently updated) source: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... Note, not a single functional language in the top 20. Haskell ranks in at #44. Scala, #30. Don't let the Hacker News bubble fool you: FP is still extremely niche. At best, I'd claim we're seeing an increase traditional imperative languages that make it possible to utilize functional idioms, and mixed environments where you can combine functional and imperative code (think Java/Clojure or C#/F#) while taking advantage of existing software ecosystems. But in that case, it's more about sprinkling in functional approaches here and there, rather than completely drinking the kool-aid.
- codygman 11y ago
  Tiobe is pretty horrible, checkout the redmonk rankings: http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/07/01/language-rankings-6-15/ http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/07/01/language-rankings-6-15...
  - zzalpha 11y ago
    Which places Haskell and Scala behind Perl, R, and Shell, at position 14 and 15, respectively. And PHP at #3... shudder That said, I don't see why I should believe RedMonk any more than any other ranking. Heck, any ranking that places C++ behind Python, or C behind Ruby, I don't believe for a damn second.

by gamache 11y ago

dang 11y ago

In fact, 2003: https://web.archive.org/web/20031025102825/http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/realworld/ https://web.archive.org/web/20031025102825/http://homepages..... We'll add the year to the title—thanks.

jcr 11y ago
Wow, I totally missed the age of this page since I was also reading his main home page which is maintained: http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/ http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/ Would it be worthwhile to change the link?
- dang 11y ago
  I don't think so. It's fine with the date added.

zzalpha 11y ago

"Eating the world"? Methinks a little bit of exaggeration/echo chamber effect at play, here. http://langpop.com/ http://langpop.com/ Coldfusion, of all things, ranks ahead of the first pure functional language on that list (Haskell). Scala, the next highest impure but strongly functional language, ranks behind Visual Basic and Delphi. Or, from another (more recently updated) source: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... Note, not a single functional language in the top 20. Haskell ranks in at #44. Scala, #30. Don't let the Hacker News bubble fool you: FP is still extremely niche. At best, I'd claim we're seeing an increase traditional imperative languages that make it possible to utilize functional idioms, and mixed environments where you can combine functional and imperative code (think Java/Clojure or C#/F#) while taking advantage of existing software ecosystems. But in that case, it's more about sprinkling in functional approaches here and there, rather than completely drinking the kool-aid.

codygman 11y ago
Tiobe is pretty horrible, checkout the redmonk rankings: http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/07/01/language-rankings-6-15/ http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/07/01/language-rankings-6-15...
- zzalpha 11y ago
  Which places Haskell and Scala behind Perl, R, and Shell, at position 14 and 15, respectively. And PHP at #3... shudder That said, I don't see why I should believe RedMonk any more than any other ranking. Heck, any ranking that places C++ behind Python, or C behind Ruby, I don't believe for a damn second.