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Everything I've read by this guy is more or less the same bilious, angry screed. His monomaniacal obsession with John Resig is a little alarming. Therefore, I

Everything I've read by this guy is more or less the same bilious, angry screed. His monomaniacal obsession with John Resig is a little alarming. Therefore, I'm sad to admit that, in this case, he almost has a point. The use of attr('height') to mean not the height attribute in the DOM but as an alias for height() smells wrong to me. However, it's clear that he has absolutely no intention of becoming a productive contributor to jQuery or helping in any way. By contrast, let's take a minute to appreciate this Matt Kruse fellow. He has apparently strong objections to something in jQuery's design and is taking it to John Resig. He seems ready to engage in a real dialogue. The end result? He probably ends up a little happier and jQuery ends up a little better. The real question is: how can we have more Matt Kruses and fewer David Marks in the world? Do the David Marks of world drive off the Matt Kruses? (I think they almost certainly do.) Why are there so many sociopathic personalities in circles such as this, and how do we mitigate the damage they cause?

kroo 17y ago
In my experience perhaps the only way of dealing with characters like David Marks is by completely ignoring their contributions. He does, I agree, almost have a point. However, his lack of respect for those who spend time and energy contributing to these projects could (and will likely) drive away many useful contributors. "Feeding the trolls" is a dangerous game, much more so than avoiding the advice of a few David Marks. The problem with this strategy lies in the fact that most open-source projects are large, open communities, where experts in a particular area useful to that project are likely not to be ignored. John Resig's response to the situation (in which he condemns the entire comp.lang.javascript usenet group) seems an extreme (but perhaps appropriate) response to this -- he's sending a very strong message to those who contribute to jQuery: "no more feeding David Mark". (I would also agree that this Matt Kruse fellow seems to be going about things in an excellent sort of way. His response to Resig < http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-dev/msg/e93f9484cd524625 http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-dev/msg/e93f9484cd5246... > was, in my opinion, spot on)

kroo 17y ago

In my experience perhaps the only way of dealing with characters like David Marks is by completely ignoring their contributions. He does, I agree, almost have a point. However, his lack of respect for those who spend time and energy contributing to these projects could (and will likely) drive away many useful contributors. "Feeding the trolls" is a dangerous game, much more so than avoiding the advice of a few David Marks. The problem with this strategy lies in the fact that most open-source projects are large, open communities, where experts in a particular area useful to that project are likely not to be ignored. John Resig's response to the situation (in which he condemns the entire comp.lang.javascript usenet group) seems an extreme (but perhaps appropriate) response to this -- he's sending a very strong message to those who contribute to jQuery: "no more feeding David Mark". (I would also agree that this Matt Kruse fellow seems to be going about things in an excellent sort of way. His response to Resig < http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-dev/msg/e93f9484cd524625 http://groups.google.com/group/jquery-dev/msg/e93f9484cd5246... > was, in my opinion, spot on)